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What's the point of no return for WiiU?

When/if MK fails 121 35.07%
 
When/if Smash fails 64 18.55%
 
When/if a $100 cut fails 78 22.61%
 
Other 79 22.90%
 
Total:342
Seece on 03 January 2014
Dream_While_Awake said:
Max King of the Wild said:

Wii U needs to reach 14m by the end of 2014 to have a chance... (hint... those are gamecube level sales).

Why does it have to reach GC level by the end of the year to still have a chance? 

It'll still outsell the GC in the long-run.


If it can't manage 5m a year, how?



 

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episteme on 03 January 2014
chocoloco said:
Areal-Llort said:
Of course the main reason for the poor Wii U sales is the lack of top-notch games. Mario Kart is the BIGGEST series for Nintendo. Once when MK8 releases, the Wii U sales will rise greatly.

So when 2D Mario was hailed as the Nintendo system seller everyone was wrong because the Wii u came out with a lot of 2D Mario in the first year. And, suddenly it fails, and people jump onto the Mario kart is the main system seller hype train. Call me a skeptic of the continued blind optimism from many for sure,


But it basically only had this one game for almost one year and it wasn't innovative and didn't feel fresh again like most other Mario games.

Nintendo Land did only sell because it was bundled. Pikmin 3 and The Wonderful 101 aren't appealing to a mass audience.

Now we have two games with appeal to Western audiences (NBMBU and SM3DW) and three games for the Japanese (NSMBU, SM3DW and Wii Party U).



FromDK on 03 January 2014
episteme said:

I think you can't save the Wii U anymore if...

- the weekly sales drop to 20-30K despite 3D World
- it can't sell more units in 2014 than 2012+2013 combined
- Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros. are launching with less than 500K units (US+Europe+Japan combined)


I will go for the.. combined 2012-2013 sale in 2014.. would be fine.. (over the point of no returnn... dah dah)

The other two points a pointless.. becourse it's still the same number..

 

AND ofcourse.. i will say the "nintendo is king" "thing" would if either ps4 or one.. sells more in 2014.. (what i believe)

It will be very interesting to see.. and we will have a good ideea in just 2-3 month..



kekrot on 03 January 2014

Still no advertising... That is important.

But I feel that more and more uninformed consumers starts to learn what the Wii U is. Just a feeling on my part though.

 

EDIT: Does anyone honestly believe that Smash Bros. is a big system seller? It's more of a hardcore game while everyone knows what MK is. Of course it will sell some systems but everyone and their mom won't buy a Wii U for Smash Bros.



Yep.

episteme on 03 January 2014
FromDK said:
episteme said:

I think you can't save the Wii U anymore if...

- the weekly sales drop to 20-30K despite 3D World
- it can't sell more units in 2014 than 2012+2013 combined
- Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros. are launching with less than 500K units (US+Europe+Japan combined)


I will go for the.. combined 2012-2013 sale in 2014.. would be fine.. (over the point of no returnn... dah dah)

The other two points a pointless.. becourse it's still the same number..

 

AND ofcourse.. i will say the "nintendo is king" "thing" would if either ps4 or one.. sells more in 2014.. (what i believe)

It will be very interesting to see.. and we will have a good ideea in just 2-3 month..

Ok, that's right. But they would be early hints.



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jrRodney on 03 January 2014

Funny chocoloco



Metallicube on 03 January 2014

why, are you scheduling a date to celebrate?

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Seece on 03 January 2014
Metallicube said:

why, are you scheduling a date to celebrate?


Can't add to discussion then?



 

jrRodney on 03 January 2014

I know it's about sales. I just think we should have a
Moderate discussion about sales and not flame on the thread. I like the poll at the top the discussion it's alright. I like dialogue and intelligent dialogue about gaming. I wish I could find some real dedicated gamers to carry on good discussions about the industry because I love gaming and buy about 2 maybe 3 games every 3 weeks and own over 40 systems spanning the history of gaming from my 2600 to my neogeo to my ps4. Answering the threads question is tough because do sales really define success. It's like the old Apple versus Android debates. The real point of no return is when the system is on the market. 



Dream_While_Awake on 03 January 2014

Seece said:

If it can't manage 5m a year, how?

Let us look at yearly GC sales: (By Fiscal Year)

3.8 M (2002) 5.7 M (2003) 5 M (2004) 3.9 M (2005) 2.3 M (2006) 730K (2007) 160K (2008 & discontinued)

GC is currently tracking much higher but I expect Wii U to catch up and have less front-loaded sales. This is because the GC had a much better line-up in its first year. Also, while Wii U is technically around the same price as the GC launch price when adjusted for inflation, the dollar amount is still higher. This allows more room for price drops later. The GC was already $150 early on in the gen. The Wii U is double that as far as dollar amount is concerned. (I'm assuming Europe & Japan are similar)

It's sad but at this point the Wii U line-up is still very poor in terms of big games.