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Cobretti2 said:
oniyide said:
Cobretti2 said:
oniyide said:
Cobretti2 said:
Well considering the WIi U didn't have the special edition and the prestige edition with the covert HD camera, most COD geeks went for the other platforms.

Plus we already know the audience left COD on Wii when Modern Warfare launched on the HD twins and skipped Wii. Then when a port come out 2 years later it was too late.

that doesnt really explain why COD on Ninty platforms did worst and worst as time went on, it cant be just cause MW1 was late to the console, becasue at that point it wasnt even the PEAK of COD's popularity, fact is the series was most popular with Blops/MW3 two games that Wii did get and on time. Hell DS got a MW1 game and the series started dropping after that too.

It is a cascading effect. I was one of the first of my friends to shift to PS3. Then when the other games come along later they had no one to play with so some of them followed me others went to 360. I even got the game on Wii jsut so I could play with one friend that couldn't afford more than one console lol.

The fact is IW has always shunded Nintendo systems even to this day. It may be for good reason I don't know. But what I do know is any serious audience that did exists on Wii ended up on PS360. Part of that was obviously Nintendos fault has the hardware wasn't capable of delivering HD gfx so developers did not want to spend too much effort downporting so they didn't bother.

This is why I said before the gen started Nintendo need to forget about trying to get hardcore gamers to switch form their system.

They need to instead retain their kids who grow into adults. These  future adults will become the hardcore gamer on their platform, assuming they  can retain them. Nintendoland if it was better executed is a good way to market your IPs. then steadly release them over time and these kids can identify with them.

However they seem to be stuck between two world and no one exactly know who they are targetting. So at this stage I cannot see how multiplatform games will ever sell a decent number on a Nintendo system unless somehting drastic changes.

 

The thing is these kids that grow up are going to WANT to play the coolest games out there. There are simply too much series that were missing on Ninty systems since...hell since N64. The irony is that this was supposed to change with the WIi U. It was not going to be that far behind the PS4 xone in terms of power, at least not a big a gap that Wii had with the HD twins. Now its not even getting PS360 games, so i cant imagine what happens whed devs start really messing with PS4/xone. It isnt just COD, its just the whole 3rd party environment. If it isnt a game that is family friendly, platforming it seems to falter on the system, hell even then (not like Rayman or SOnic lit up the charts). There are lot of excuses made, but look at Watchdogs, got announced with all the systems, was able to be preordered with the others. Now which is the only version NOT on the preorder charts?

Exactly my whole point. They need to start retaining these kids. Only way to do that is to release top notch 1st party at a steady pace, throw in the mature titles too like metroid etc.. in the mix and then invest in new mature IPs.

Ontop of that they need to work with 3rd parties to see what they want but yet doesn't compramise their qerkyness but enough to keep the 3rd parties happy.

Effectively they need to grow their brand like XBOX has.


Thats not gonna happen at least not this gen. Ninty simply doesnt have the resources to put out 1st party game after 1st party game. Not when they have to support two systems. And even if they do that, it still wont work because their is no substitute for say GTA, doesnt matter how mature Ninty makes their games. Stuff like GTA, ME, Bioshock, Portal, Metall Gear, Skyrim etc. are what people want to play and NINTY is missing a LOT of those games...their not gonna get them, not this time unless something drastic happen. They did grow their brand, with the WIi but it shrank right back down, hell its even smaller than GC thats crazy.



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oniyide said:


Thats not gonna happen at least not this gen. Ninty simply doesnt have the resources to put out 1st party game after 1st party game. Not when they have to support two systems. And even if they do that, it still wont work because their is no substitute for say GTA, doesnt matter how mature Ninty makes their games. Stuff like GTA, ME, Bioshock, Portal, Metall Gear, Skyrim etc. are what people want to play and NINTY is missing a LOT of those games...their not gonna get them, not this time unless something drastic happen. They did grow their brand, with the WIi but it shrank right back down, hell its even smaller than GC thats crazy.


They grew their brand with casuals. Casuals pretty much abandoned them. Now is the time to plan correctly for the next gen. This gen is over in my books. I'm sure it will have some sweet games but they will only cater to Nintendo fans.



 

 

oniyide said:
Wanderlei said:
oniyide said:
Wanderlei said:
They have treated Nintendo like crap for years.

If for years a product was sold exclusively at Walmart and then they started selling it at Costco but didn't advertise it. Would you be surprised when the majority of sales come from Walmart. Of course not because customers are use to go to Walmart to get it, they dont know they could get it else where.

Its on 3rd parties to win their audience back on Nintendo platforms. They have to put in the work, no more half assed version, advertise, give people reasons to buy their games. They prolly wont have choice once ps4/xb1 sales start falling off a cliff. They will need every sale they can get.

you serious? PS4 and Xbone had great lauches and as long as they can supply demand people will buy them, the sales wont drop to Wii U levels and thats besides the point. PS4 and Xone versions of COD have done great. Acti doesnt need cod on Wii U

So what, the WiiU sold 3.06 million in its first month. PS4/XB1 are just filling pre-orders to fans that buy regardless of games, we see sales drop massively already.

Analysts are already predicting that next-gen consoles - even 'successful' ones - will have the slowest adoption rate in history.

More than HALF of all current PS3s were sold within the last two years. Process that.
Do you honestly believe those people, having JUST bought the PS3, are going to want to buy the follow-up less than 2 years later?

No matter how well they may or may not sell the userbases of XB1/PS4 are going to tiny to the X360/ps3 userbase they will be losing. They will need absolutley every sale they can get, end of story.

 

 

you didnt answer my question. Do you think either system will drop down to WIi U levels? Yes or No.

Thats why they and others will keep supporting the PS3 and 360 for as long as they can, you know systems where people actual buy the COD games. COD sold better on PS4 and Xone despite Wii u having a bigger install base process that. COD sales for WIi U is terrible and account for less than 1%. They dont NEED the WIi U end of story.

LOL listen to this guy. "please say things I want you too, to fit my argument".

They can only support old consoles for so long before software sales dry up. Reality is they are going from a combined userbase of 160 million to less than 10 million combined going forward. Not growing their brand on every platform is financial malpractice, they need every sales they can get, end of story.

 



Wanderlei said:

LOL listen to this guy. "please say things I want you too, to fit my argument".

They can only support old consoles for so long before software sales dry up. Reality is they are going from a combined userbase of 160 million to less than 10 million combined going forward. Not growing their brand on every platform is financial practice, they need every sales they can get, end of story.

 

That would be true if a Wii U version would just appear for free, but that doesn't happen, a Wii U version costs money. And for most third parties a port that sells south of 100k is simply not worth it.

Also your "they treated them like crap"-argument doesn't even work here, Activision has supported Nintendo for a long time, all their big games released on the Wii and now Wii U. Fact is very few people actually buy third party games on Nintendo consoles, aside from a couple exceptions, so third parties really don't need nintendo, if at all it's the other way around.



Wanderlei said:
oniyide said:
Wanderlei said:
oniyide said:
Wanderlei said:
They have treated Nintendo like crap for years.

If for years a product was sold exclusively at Walmart and then they started selling it at Costco but didn't advertise it. Would you be surprised when the majority of sales come from Walmart. Of course not because customers are use to go to Walmart to get it, they dont know they could get it else where.

Its on 3rd parties to win their audience back on Nintendo platforms. They have to put in the work, no more half assed version, advertise, give people reasons to buy their games. They prolly wont have choice once ps4/xb1 sales start falling off a cliff. They will need every sale they can get.

you serious? PS4 and Xbone had great lauches and as long as they can supply demand people will buy them, the sales wont drop to Wii U levels and thats besides the point. PS4 and Xone versions of COD have done great. Acti doesnt need cod on Wii U

So what, the WiiU sold 3.06 million in its first month. PS4/XB1 are just filling pre-orders to fans that buy regardless of games, we see sales drop massively already.

Analysts are already predicting that next-gen consoles - even 'successful' ones - will have the slowest adoption rate in history.

More than HALF of all current PS3s were sold within the last two years. Process that.
Do you honestly believe those people, having JUST bought the PS3, are going to want to buy the follow-up less than 2 years later?

No matter how well they may or may not sell the userbases of XB1/PS4 are going to tiny to the X360/ps3 userbase they will be losing. They will need absolutley every sale they can get, end of story.

 

 

you didnt answer my question. Do you think either system will drop down to WIi U levels? Yes or No.

Thats why they and others will keep supporting the PS3 and 360 for as long as they can, you know systems where people actual buy the COD games. COD sold better on PS4 and Xone despite Wii u having a bigger install base process that. COD sales for WIi U is terrible and account for less than 1%. They dont NEED the WIi U end of story.

LOL listen to this guy. "please say things I want you too, to fit my argument".

They can only support old consoles for so long before software sales dry up. Reality is they are going from a combined userbase of 160 million to less than 10 million combined going forward. Not growing their brand on every platform is financial malpractice, they need every sales they can get, end of story.

 

The fact that you wont answer a simple will PS4 or Xbone drop to WIi U levels tells me that you dont believe they will. So your argument makes less sense as they wont have the problems moving software that WIi U had all year becasue they wont sell as badly.

So you think that PS4 and xone will only do about 10mil together lifetime? now thats funny. As DerNebel already explained the games dont sell on Wii U period, so really they might as well save porting costs and not even put it on their. Ha Ghosts is actually tracking WORSE than Blops2 despite the bigger user base so it would be financial malpractice to keep sinking money into that SKU end of story.



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COD is shit and so is the Wii U

 

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Aielyn said:
...My bet is that this is happening elsewhere, too. I don't know if it's because of Activision, Sony/MS, the retailers themselves, Nintendo, or someone else, but this is what happens all the time. EB Games released a guide to games, recently, that went through various multiplatform titles, then exclusives by system. In the multiplatform section, it had Batman: Arkham Origins listed for Wii U and the other platforms. Ghosts, however, was listed for everything *except* Wii U.

It is my friend. In my country they only brought the copies that were pre-ordered and nothing else, a week after the game came out I was trying to buy it and nobody had copies of the game for Wii U, for PS3 and Xbox 360 there were a lot, but all told me the same about the Wii U version that they were "bringing a few more" in a week or 2, because they only brought the pre-ordered units and did not have additional copies to sell. Similar story with other games but not as bad, I could find a few copies of Assassin's Creed IV and Batman. And let's not talk about not so popular games, The Wonderful 101 is impossible to get, same thing with Deus Ex or even Splinter Cell: Blacklist.



and people wonder why 3rd parties dont support nintendo systems



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Killzone 2. its not a fps. it a FIRST PERSON WAR SIMULATOR!!!! ..The true PLAYSTATION 3 launch date and market dominations is SEP 1st

This game sold 40x more on ps4/xbox1 than on Wii U?

I still wonder why there was no COD vita though Cod sold last year on vita much more than on Wii U.
Seems Activision don't care for profit.



Wanderlei said:

LOL listen to this guy. "please say things I want you too, to fit my argument".

They can only support old consoles for so long before software sales dry up. Reality is they are going from a combined userbase of 160 million to less than 10 million combined going forward. Not growing their brand on every platform is financial malpractice, they need every sales they can get, end of story.

 


The thing you don't understand is that releasing a Wii U port isn't growing the brand. Wii U isn't really competing with PS4One, it's a companion console at best, just like the original Wii. This means that Wii U owners know they need a PS4One or a PC to play games, cause Wii U is too underpowered to deliver a full next-gen experience. What does this mean? It means that Wii U sales aren't added sales! In most cases, they are just canibalising sales from other platforms, since many Wii U owners would get a CoD on a different platform, had it not been on Wii U. The number of fanboys that will ignore the franchise just because it's not coming to Wii U is negligible, as they would never make up for the costs of the port. That's why if I was an executive at Activision, Wii U would only get a CoD next year if the console explodes this year. And it surely wouldn't get a port instead of Vita. Vita can add sales, since people want a portable CoD and see it as something a bit different and that audience actually wants a CoD. It really beats me why Acti chose Wii U over Vita this year.



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My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.