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bananaking21 said:
SxyxS said:
That's what MS is doing for more than 3 decades with their competitors and 'friends'.
I guess it is because all the guys who developed the original xbox left and were replaced by ms employees with windows-mentality.
Considering all the previous ideas they developed(before the 180) their arrogance and ignorance towards their "peasants" were obvious.

On the other side:i'd really like to know what happened to "team meat" to get a more objective point of view+
he should stop with this accusations for a while as it seems MS changed the rules in favour to indie-developers.
Let's see how good/bad this changes really are.


why on earth should he stop if his and other devs complaints are the ones who got MS to change the rules?


The reason is very simple(i'll try to explain with my poor english)

 

It is the "boy who cried too many times wolf "-effect.He was crying too many times Wolf(false alarm) and when the wolf really appeared people didn't listen.

This is not the first time he is complaining about MS.If he is doing this to often people will stop listening-they will start to ignore him.Therefore he should keep quite for a while or he may lose too much credibility.He should join team meat and watch MS' current behaviour and if there is something bad still going on he should attack them 100%,but not that way.

SAVE YOUR AMMO WHEN YOU NEED IT MOST(don't waste it like that)

But to be hoenest:maybe i'd react the same way if a psychopathic piece of shit  from MS was threatening me to ruin my life.

I guess i'd threatened him as the onls way to keep a psychopath down is  to threaten him to treat him the same way& to expose him as the fear of loss and exposure is what their insane ego fears most.



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To be fair, Jonathan Blow is probably the worst dev to work with. The guy can't code. Imagine having him call you 10 times a day to ask how to do x or y with your api, I would seriously kill the guy.



Mad55 said:
Lol how did they treat him and other indies like shit?


I'll give you some examples.

Bill Wyman(Rolling Stones) said:We have been selling millions,were no.1 all around the world but i barely could afford to buy me a VW Beetle .

George Harrison(Beatles) had to sell his hous(or huge hypotheque) to finance the production of the monty python movie life of brian.

 

Usually both had to be multi-multimillionaires but their gready managers ripped them off.

The same can happen to you if you are naive and think you will be treated fairly in gaming business.They will sent you a 150+IQ psychopathic greedy lawyer and let you sign a contract you don't understand because they use words and sentences in this contracrt a common person can't understand.As soon as you sign the contract and don't do what they want you to do they will thteaten to ruin you because they owe you and they control you(and your IP)



Turkish said:
Mad55 said:
Lol how did they treat him and other indies like shit?


The parity they force on everybody? If my game came out on PS4 first and later I decide to port it to xbone, they will not be accepting it on their system, its surreal.

The devs knew that before they started developing on the specific console though. 



Mad55 said:
Turkish said:
Mad55 said:
Lol how did they treat him and other indies like shit?


The parity they force on everybody? If my game came out on PS4 first and later I decide to port it to xbone, they will not be accepting it on their system, its surreal.

The devs knew that before they started developing on the specific console though. 

If you don't know Microsoft's past treatment of indie devs and want to know, just google it.



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another reason to hate on indies is this jerk.

Proud leader of the anti-indie-movement!



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

If they did and still are treating Indies like shit, then why do Indies keep releasing games on Microsoft systems?



I wished indie games stayed on the PC and Console never opened up to them.. they only bitch and moan while they should be thankfull they got out of obscurity thanks to the console makers..



 

Face the future.. Gamecenter ID: nikkom_nl (oh no he didn't!!) 

RenCutypoison said:

To be fair, Jonathan Blow is probably the worst dev to work with. The guy can't code. Imagine having him call you 10 times a day to ask how to do x or y with your api, I would seriously kill the guy.

I agree but I loved his first game and the second looks really impressive... maybe it just needs to pay somebody else to code to him... he seems to works better on game design part.



DirtyP2002 said:
another reason to hate on indies is this jerk.

Proud leader of the anti-indie-movement!


congratulations, you just made the worst VGC post of 2013.