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Forums - Sales Discussion - November 2013 NPD Thread! Everything is in the OP!

Soundwave on 12 December 2013

Iwata can stay but NOA should be handed over to real Western-centric management. 

Miyamoto should be removed from head of software division at EAD though. EAD's software focus has become way too narrow.

Keep Miyamoto around sure, let him personally work on whatever game(s) he wants and give him whatever budget/time he wants for those games (and he's obviously earned that), but he shouldn't be the one making calls on the overall software direction of the company anymore (and anyone else who was responsible for Nintendo's library/software planning of the last 2 years should also be demoted).

I would promote Koizumi. He's younger and seems more in touch.



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Seece on 12 December 2013

Disappointed we don't have any Wii, PS3 and Vita leaks :(

and software!!



 

DerNebel on 12 December 2013
ethomaz said:

DerNebel said:

And even he called that off, last prediction from him I've read put the Wii U below 8mil for the end of the year.

I think right now 6 million is the best bet.

I'd say 5.5 max.

OT: God-fucking-dammit Sony open your mouth, I want to see some PS4 numbers, I want to see some software numbers. I know you're holding your statement back because of the horrible Vita sales but man, I really don't want to wait who knows how long until that NeoGaf leaker whose name I forgot decides to say something.



ethomaz on 12 December 2013

Rumor... a guy said in GAF that he is "hearing PS3 did 424k".



Max King of the Wild on 12 December 2013

What did wii u do last november?



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Seece on 12 December 2013
ethomaz said:
Rumor... a guy said in GAF that he is "hearing PS3 did 424k".


About expected, with 360 sales being low. I wonder if Wii is around 100k then, all last gen consoles seem to be doing much less than we anticpated.



 

Seece on 12 December 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
What did wii u do last november?


425k, then in December 460k.

LTD

WiiU: 1.61m
XB: 909k
PS4: 1.25m~



 

ethomaz on 12 December 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
What did wii u do last november?

430k if I remember.



thismeintiel on 12 December 2013
Nsanity said:
thismeintiel said:

Yep, and Wal-Mart announced they are getting the largest shipment of PS4 this weekend, too.  Even larger than their launch shipment.  I think Dec may go to Sony, as well.

Did Walmart say how many consoles they were actually getting?

No.  But considering they are the largest retail chain in the US, I bet they made up a healthy percentage of that initial 1M+.



 

Vinniegambini on 12 December 2013
JGarret said:
Vinniegambini said:
JGarret said:
Vinniegambini said:

I'm glad I sold my stock in Nintendo back in late November, had a healthy return.

Nintendo did okay with 3DS, surprised it did not do better with Pokemon supporting the handheld and the holiday season but Wii U results are simply embarrassing, especially 3D World numbers - the game is a goddam gem.


Still feel like having that champagne with popcorn?

I am having some nonetheless. There is nothing that will change that :)

Gaming did well as a whole this November, but the lack of 3DS sales and ''return to form for Wii U'' given Mario is quite frankly disheartening.

Well that´s good!...though I don´t think champagne with popcorn is a good combination, but to each his own.

Remember that message I sent you today?...puts things into perspective, doesn´t it?...it´s sad, I´m having a fantastic time with Mario 3D World, but the system itself is being toxic to Nintendo´s games.At this point I won´t be surprised if the Wii U versions of Mario, Mario Kart, Smash, etc..end up being the lowest selling iterations in their respective franchises.

Expect any drastic moves from them next year?

I really don't know but as of now, things are not looking good. Their revenue is decreasing YOY, gaming budgets are increasing, their cash position is decreasing, the Wii U is sold at a loss, small 3DS YOY increases despite new popular software and 2DS entry-level price - things are looking grim to say the least. However, Nintendo has all the tools necessary to succeed; however, new management is needed. Namco-Bandai were in a similar position back in 2009-2010 and new management was implemented in order for them to strive in today's business model. Today, Namco-Bandai are the most profitable Japanese publishers (ahead of Nintendo) with a projected operating income of 450 million for this fiscal year - Nintendo will most likely post an operating income between 100-200 million in comparison.

In the end, Nintendo needs to do like Namco-Bandai, sit-down, re-assess, re-organize and seek areas of growth in order to drive a successful business.