Are you sure? Well that's how I will probably be playing it then if my friend doesn't get his PS4 by then. I mostly don't like online games, but I agree, that sense that you don't really own a game is a real issue

I don't mean to criticise Microsoft in particular, but I bought Halo 2 for PC last year and couldn't play it because the authorisation servers didn't really work or something.... (I kind of then had to pirate a code that worked for some reason) The same thing is going to happen with many of these games down the road, especially as they will want to sell them to you multiple times so you can play them on different devices

Yup. See this video for yourself. But they might change. Why? Because "Nothing is true, Everything is permitted" by game developers.

Here is the video. Look at 02:13 .

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/qyga88/destiny-e3-2013--new-details

I'm okay with minor things like that where its purpose is for you to share content with friends. Just so long as it doesn't grow any larger like it clearly has here

This is the problem with these "persistent/shared world shooters" like Destiny and the Division. You can basically play them like a single player game, but they are all online only.

He just said you can play on your own, he didn't say you could play offline. They can play it in their studio offline, but that doesn't mean we can...

And your quote has reminded me that I should stop talking about games online and go back to ACIV....

Sound like Titanfall. I've played and enjoyed Borderlands 2 but I've only played it single player, never played it multiplayer at all (don't know anyone else who own it and don't want to play with random dickheads). The idea that Borderlands 3 might make me play forced online defeats the purpose of playing it single player to begin with.

Sad that this is happening at all, we want more freedom to play not more restrictions, game developers battle against piracy is oddly restrictive to legitmate gamers.

Sound like Titanfall. I've played and enjoyed Borderlands 2 but I've only played it single player, never played it multiplayer at all (don't know anyone else who own it and don't want to play with random dickheads). The idea that Borderlands 3 might make me play forced online defeats the purpose of playing it single player to begin with.

Sad that this is happening at all, we want more freedom to play not more restrictions, game developers battle against piracy is oddly restrictive to legitmate gamers.

Yeah, I do feel that it is becoming more difficult to me, but this generation might decrease some of the hassle. Things like having to enter 5 different codes from pre-orders and then wait for the game to install were a pain last gen, so I hope those kinds of things decrease even if I do have to play online

The whole issue doesn't sit well for the future, each time they (the industry) move into something more like this, all other paid for parts of playing games beyond the console and game itself, become like 'taxes'. You buy the game but you can't play until you've paid for an IPS for internet, and then if they restrict it more, you still can't play until you've paid XBL/PS+/online pass of some kind.

A big thanks for supporting our game and industry by making sure we fleece you for all your worth and mistrust you at every turn.