d21lewis said:
I'm saying that paying for online is the reason gay marriage was legalized in the first place. Every cloud has a silver lining. Thanks, Xbox Gold! |
It does indeed.
d21lewis said:
I'm saying that paying for online is the reason gay marriage was legalized in the first place. Every cloud has a silver lining. Thanks, Xbox Gold! |
It does indeed.
I'm paying for PS+ for about 3y now. For 261 USD (4 x12m subs) they gave me access to: Crysis 2, uncharted 3, borderlands, Reddead redemption, Assasins cread 3, farcray 3, farcray 2, Grid 2, NFS MW, battlefield 3, XCOM, dead space 2, bulletstorm, mass efect 3, sleeping dogs, Metal Gear Rising, Vanquish, The Cave, Mafia II, Spec ops: the line, Batman arkam city, Mortal Kombat, Dead or alive 5, inFamous 2,Jak&daxter 1,2,3, Warhammer 40K.
And that is only top 25 titles from my PS+ collection (not mentioned games I've previously owned like LBP 1,2 or Just Cause 2 or Vita games or PS4 titles). PS+ made me not to buy games any more.
Please remind me how many good games did MS gave you for Live subscription?
d21lewis said: Look, a lot of things have changed now. Just let it go. -It was "You can't play sales", "I guess Justin Bieber is the best singer in the world, huh?". Now, with home consoles breaking records, sales are extremely important. -Performance wasn't an issue before if the games were virtually identical. Now, if a game is less HD than another, it's crap . -Mandatory installs and incredibly long updates were tolerable. Now, waiting 10 minutes for a game to install will kill you. -It didn't matter which controller was best, as long as the controller was good enough for the games YOU wanted to play. Now, if you're playing with anything less than the best controller (as voted by most gaming sites, you're a loser. -Paying an annual fee for online gaming was damn near criminal. How can any company hold half the game YOU PAID FOR hostage unless you paid an annual fee? Now, it's okay. -Gay marriage was frowned up. Now, it's legal. -Digital games "didn't count". Now, they're just as important as retail titles. I hope you've learned something. These are different times and different rules will apply. |
Ouch. Those punches hurt...
Well atleast some of us PS guys are stil fully against paying for multiplayer....
More free games, not all games require payment for online multiplayer(f2p), all entertainment apps do not require PSplus to be used. Only ps4 online multiplayer games require PSN plus. Ps3 and psvita games do not.
And PSN is and will always be Free. You are referring to PS PLUS.
BMaker11 said:
You can't do that. That is a merit of the servive which warrants subscribing to it. If you can say that, then I can say "take away the online MP for XBL and PSN is top dog". I'd say something else for comparison sake, but online MP is literally all the XBL offers. And I really doubt you don't care about the games. On a list that includes games like LBP2, Super Street Fighter IV, Borderlands 2, inFamous 2, Batman: Arkham City, Sleeping Dogs, UC3, XCOM, BF3, Assassin's Creed 3, Mass Effect 3, and many, many more games, that all come out within a year after the game initially released (no releasing a 7 year old game in a monthly update), I doubt you just "don't care" about them, considering these are all big games. And if you download and play just 1 or 2 of those games over the course of one year, PS+, then, has already paid for itself, and you still have ALL the other games to choose from. If you put it in that perspective, you don't really pay to play online. Technically, yes you have, but in practice, no you haven't |
Good post and very true!
Although it feels like the only reason why PS+ looks so good is because XBL looks pretty crappy in comparison.
Aside from the comparisons...it doesnt take away the fact that Sony is now charging for MP...and for a lot of gamers around the world who only dabbled in a bit of online gaming this is a pretty big setback. You either $50 in or not in at all. And that sucks big time. Not to mention that we already pay $60 for the game and now have to pay an additional cost just to get access to half of it. Its ridiculous.
Console platform owners better be careful. Everytime they screw over loyal customers it pushes them away to platforms that are more open like PC's.
Anyways i agree that PS+ is good value...i mean which gamer in their right mind wouldnt? But that doesnt make it okay to put what should be free behind a paywall.
free games, simple as that. The best thing is they are quality games not indie cheap shit but full AAA titles.
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CocaineCowboy77 said:
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Sony does and that's why online play isn't free on PS4.
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Runa216 said: The key difference is that, when it was Xbox 360, Microsoft was the ONLY company regularly charging for online play. Nintendo didn't charge (though their stuff was shit), PSN was free (and compared to Xbox, the only difference was cross game chat and slightly more frequent outages), and Steam was free (and that was infinitely superior.
**Edit** - Oh, and Microsoft was the first to do it. I don;t buy the 'it pays for the online servers' bit, because Steam has managed to keep that shit free; Sony's only doing it because they saw Microsoft do it and make a shit-tonne of money off it. IT's capitalism, it's kinda greedy, but it was Microsoft who set the precedent for it, and Sony is, as they usualyl are, just following in the footsteps of others, and we all saw it coming half a decade ago. |
Agree with your post Runa but just to be clear...
Steam doesnt offer dedicated servers as far as im aware (might be wrong though). And im pretty sure MS does use the money from Live to cover whatever server costs that have. Doesnt mean they dont profit from it which is kinda the point for them though....
Mr Puggsly said:
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I don't care what Sony wants either. I just want free games.
Sony's not out to make a load of money with PSN+. 6 free games a month for about £3 is rather generous. You have no idea why online play isn't free. Could be Sony wants more players to subscribe, which would benifit both parties by the way. PSN+ is a win-win situation for gamers and for Sony. Microsoft, on the other hand, are charging you the same amount for PSN+ with inferior features.
CocaineCowboy77 said:
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Well PS+ is a paid service. Stick with the PC is you really want F2P.
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