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i didn't state nothing changes...i stated what ps3 would have to do to catch up to 360 and i don't believe it can

if u believe it can, then why not post your reasoning instead of flames?



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp
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Fastrabbit09 said:
i didn't state nothing changes...i stated what ps3 would have to do to catch up to 360 and i don't believe it can

if u believe it can, then why not post your reasoning instead of flames?

 Maybe the reason he resort to insult was because he KNEW that even if he does come up with a perfectly good reason and explain it rationally, you would just ignore it?

like how you ignored about all the other reasons on this thread?



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: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
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Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)

http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?reg1=America&reg2=America&reg3=America&start=39040&weekly=1

Ps3: 155K to 3866K= 3.711M increase
X360: 3475K to 10869K = 7.394M increase

I think that is a safe bet.

Wii has sold 8.8M in the time.



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

the only reason ANYONE gave was yours about ps3 getting games...so your post is also incorrect

i want something more substantial than "wait until x,y, and z games come out and you'll see then"

at the least, predict that game A will sell x # of extra consoles, game B will sell y # of extra consoles, etc...something other than "wait for games"...btw, how many more AAA exclusives is ps3 getting than 360 this year?

 

additionally, his 'insult' was a completely illogical analogy, seeing as how i stated how drastic things would have to change; i didn't say they would always stay the same as they are today

 btw, not sure why dmeister says "your console" when i would never buy a 360



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp

I thought this was obvious to everyone. Barring some kind of seismic shift in the market, the PS3 will never even come close to the 360 in America. The gap is gigantic, and growing larger every week. We've all seen how slowly the Wii has been catching up to the 360 in America, even though it outsells the 360 there on a weekly basis. Unless PS3 sales magically double or triple in America, or the 360 simply stops selling completely, it's not going to happen.

Worldwide sales look much better for the PS3, although there's no guarantee it will pass the 360 there either.



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The PS3 will have sold more lifetime in the Americas, once the deceiding factor isnt just Halo and pricing, but console features, AAA titles, and console reliability.

The PS3 will begin to outsell the 360 WW weekly by then of this year and be within 1,000,000 by next fall. 7,000,000 out of a potential 40,000,000 users. As the PS3 rises, the 360 doesn't maintain momentum. It falls off. And if Gears 2 isnt better than Resistance 2, the shooter crowd will pick the PS3 over the 360. If things continue as they are now with minor price drops, the PS3 is going to put the 360 right back where the original left off.

By years end the PS3 could have the best titles in the RPG, shooter, adventure, racing, and fighting games, with PSN rivaling XBL, and the best game of the year (sales wise) also being on the PS3 (GTA). All this plus blu-ray, with a free and simple online interface.

The 360 won't last unless they have something huge we dont know about.



the ps3 is already outselling the 360 ww...but we are talking about Americas...when will it start to outsell 360 in Americas?



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp
Fastrabbit09 said:
the ps3 is already outselling the 360 ww...but we are talking about Americas...when will it start to outsell 360 in Americas?

PlayStation 3 Blu-Ray Games

Afrika - Rhino Studios
The Agency - Sony Online Entertainment
Big Time Revenge - Anygame Company
Bipedal Movement Simulation - Artdink
Brave Arms - Cellius
Buzz Quiz TV - Relentless Software
Chain Limit - Cellius
Coded Arms Assault - Konami
Digimon World Online - Namco Bandai
Disgaea 3 - Nippon Ichi
DC Universe - Sony Online Entertainment
Driver - Reflections Interactive
Eight Days - Sony Computer Entertainment London
Hot Shots Golf 5 - Clap Hanz/Sony Computer Entertainment International
Eyedentify - Sony Computer Entertainment Japan
Fifth Phantom Saga - Sonic Team Sega
Final Fantasy XIII - Square Enix (Maybe 2009)
Free Realms - Sony Online Entertainment
The Getaway 3 - Sony Computer Entertainment London
God of War 3 - Sony Computer Entertainment Santa Monica Studio (Maybe 2009)
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue - Polyphony Digital Entertainment
Gran Turismo 5 - Polyphony Digital Entertainment
Haze - Free Radical Design
Heavy Rain - Quantic Dream
Infamous - Sucker Punch Studios
Killzone 2 - Guerilla Games
The Last Canyon (the Team Ico game supposed name)
LittleBigPlanet - Media Molecule
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots - Kojima Productions
MotorStorm 2 - Evolution studio
Naruto: PS3 project - CyberConnect2
Nobi Nobi Boy - Namco Bandai
Resistance: Fall of Man 2 - Insomniac
Second Season 01 - Cellius
Singstar - Sony Computer Entertainment London
Socom: Confrontation - Slant Six Games
Tekken 6 - Namco Bandai
Valkyrie The Battlefield - Sega
Wardevil (Maybe 09) - Digi-Guys
White Knight Story - Level5
Yakuza 3 - Sega

When almost ALL these games are out + 299$ price. Then.



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

ok, so when 90% of those games are out and the ps3 is $299 or less for the entry sku, then ps3 will start outselling the 360 in the US?

do u have a date for when u think 90% of those will be out? are they all 2008 releases?



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp

This is a huge issue people are negating to look at. As well as the PS3 has done in Japan and Other it has still failed to penetrate the US market and overtake the 360 and Wii. The US market has 24 million consoles sold. While the others and Japan combined only have 24 million sold. So the Americas has 50% of the market share right now. The 360 has about 44% market share in the Americas while the Wii has 42% the PS3 has a 14% market share in the Americas. It's a huge deficit that will take years to offset. Especially since it's the Wii that still has the momentum.



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