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Panicnausia on 03 December 2013
kowenicki said:

Absolute horseshit article.

They nailed their colours to the mast and they are trying to justify it.

It works brilliantly as far as I am concerned.

Also the guy has never heard of pins? He hasn't even tried to understand it.  Sounds like someone who is scared of change to me.

....and yes you can delete installed games. The guy is a fucking moron. Yet more examples of clueless journalism.


Many of their complaints are valid and numerous other places also mentioned the same things. Many see it as as tep back from 360, especially the party chat system.



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Panicnausia on 03 December 2013

Giant bomb also said the same thing, and MS has stated (See videogamer.com) they know the party system and some of the OS is an issue and fixes are coming. IF ms is saying fixes are coming they know there are some issue.



Panicnausia on 03 December 2013
kowenicki said:
Panicnausia said:
kowenicki said:

Absolute horseshit article.

They nailed their colours to the mast and they are trying to justify it.

It works brilliantly as far as I am concerned.

Also the guy has never heard of pins? He hasn't even tried to understand it.  Sounds like someone who is scared of change to me.

....and yes you can delete installed games. The guy is a fucking moron. Yet more examples of clueless journalism.


Many of their complaints are valid and numerous other places also mentioned the same things. Many see it as as tep back from 360, especially the party chat system.


all to be fixed and patched

just like all new consoles last gen and this...

just like the ps4 for instance.

Yeah, but what does that have to do with its current state? Ps4 doesn't have as many issues with it's OS and Ui, mainly tweaking.

 

It will get fixed, sure, but they are evaluating it as of right now.



Puppyroach on 03 December 2013

That was a weird article, sounded more like a fanboy rant than anything else. What does he mean by the statement that apps take a long time loading? Every video I have seen they load from 0 to 100% very fast. Also, has he not heard of pins?



SxyxS on 03 December 2013

Seems this thread was hijacked and turned into a one man show!

Topic:
Would be could to compare this with a more positive Article about Interface/OS and some comments from people who owns both console.
(and i know really tend to buy windows8.All things that are criticized with so much passion in so many articles usually have some pretty good qualities)



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Blood_Tears on 03 December 2013
kowenicki said:
Blood_Tears said:
yo_john117 said:
Blood_Tears said:
thx1139 said:
You can’t view or manage storage, a spectacularly poor decision given that the 500GB hard drive will be approaching capacity by March. 

Really I hate when you see criticisms of features that are coming, but just not needed yet. In software development you make compromises based on when functionality is required. For instance worked on a website that was annual subscription based. We didnt implement a way for someone to renew thier subscription when we launched the site.  Oh my god we will lose business because people wont be able to renew. No since it was annual we knew we had no reason to have a requirment completed for launch if it wasnt going to be used for most of the 1st year.

 

Was this your 2nd or 3rd website that your customers are transferring from?  The same customers that had this "annual renewal" subscriptions for the previous interations?  Was this... screw it, I can't even continue with your horrible analogy. The fact of the matter is, it's a feature that was included in X360 so people can manage their data and it's not there now. With a 500 gb HDD and the size of installation on both consoles it's a shitty design flaw not to include this at launch. With so many people mentioning it out of gate it is obviously "needed" now not later.

No it's not. Even if you bought every single game plus it's DLC, you would not use up all of your hard drive space. Not to mention you can very easily delete your games (your saves are saved in the cloud and can't be managed yet).

So no, it is not needed at all right now. They should definitely add total file management by the springtime though. People are mentioning it right out of the gate because it's a nice feature to have, and they want it added, not because they need it.

Fair enough then. So the next PC i buy i'll tell them it doesn't matter what size hdd I get because I don't need to see the storage capacity or need to manage it in 2013 because any content I have such as games, movies, music etc I'll just delete it when i get the error message "Not enough storage" on my all in one system..

What a terrible analogy.  You can only store games on the it, xbox one games.  You cant fill it up.  Thats the point.  It isnt urgent, but its coming.  It really isnt an issue at all right now.

 

 

 

 


Well then we'll just agree to disagree on it, same with yo_john117 to then. What isn't urgent to you is urgent for me. Your the early adopter and okay with everything, that's fine. But my gaming time this past gen was spent 80%/20% for PS3/X360. It's great that these things are getting patched but until they do neither company is getting my 400/500 dollars. My PS3 and even my 360 before it died has true storage management, can use DLNA and play mp3's. Going backward even if it's just for launch is a problem for me. 

I'll buy a PS4 next year and if MS announces exclusive Jrpg's then i'll buy one then too. But for now, the promise of a patch of things I already have from either side is not enough to pull me in..



thx1139 on 03 December 2013
yo_john117 said:
Blood_Tears said:
thx1139 said:
You can’t view or manage storage, a spectacularly poor decision given that the 500GB hard drive will be approaching capacity by March. 

Really I hate when you see criticisms of features that are coming, but just not needed yet. In software development you make compromises based on when functionality is required. For instance worked on a website that was annual subscription based. We didnt implement a way for someone to renew thier subscription when we launched the site.  Oh my god we will lose business because people wont be able to renew. No since it was annual we knew we had no reason to have a requirment completed for launch if it wasnt going to be used for most of the 1st year.

 

Was this your 2nd or 3rd website that your customers are transferring from?  The same customers that had this "annual renewal" subscriptions for the previous interations?  Was this... screw it, I can't even continue with your horrible analogy. The fact of the matter is, it's a feature that was included in X360 so people can manage their data and it's not there now. With a 500 gb HDD and the size of installation on both consoles it's a shitty design flaw not to include this at launch. With so many people mentioning it out of gate it is obviously "needed" now not later.

No it's not. Even if you bought every single game plus it's DLC, you would not use up all of your hard drive space. Not to mention you can very easily delete your games (your saves are saved in the cloud and can't be managed yet).

So no, it is not needed at all right now. They should definitely add total file management by the springtime though. People are mentioning it right out of the gate because it's a nice feature to have, and they want it added, not because they need it.

Also people are mentioning it simply to criticize.  I dont know about you, but I dont get my jollies by saying Ooooo I just deleted Forza.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

TheSting on 03 December 2013
kowenicki said:
Blood_Tears said:
kowenicki said:

What a terrible analogy.  You can only store games on the it, xbox one games.  You cant fill it up.  Thats the point.  It isnt urgent, but its coming.  It really isnt an issue at all right now.

 

 

 

 


Well then we'll just agree to disagree on it, same with yo_john117 to then. What isn't urgent to you is urgent for me. Your the early adopter and okay with everything, that's fine. But my gaming time this past gen was spent 80%/20% for PS3/X360. It's great that these things are getting patched but until they do neither company is getting my 400/500 dollars. My PS3 and even my 360 before it died has true storage management, can use DLNA and play mp3's. Going backward even if it's just for launch is a problem for me. 

I'll buy a PS4 next year and if MS announces exclusive Jrpg's then i'll buy one then too. But for now, the promise of a patch of things I already have from either side is not enough to pull me in..

Thats your chocie... and its out choice to beta testers.  I still have my PS3 and 360 so I've lost nothing.


Seriously that's all we are and I hope everyone understands that Sony & MS



thx1139 on 03 December 2013
Blood_Tears said:
yo_john117 said:
Blood_Tears said:
thx1139 said:
You can’t view or manage storage, a spectacularly poor decision given that the 500GB hard drive will be approaching capacity by March. 

Really I hate when you see criticisms of features that are coming, but just not needed yet. In software development you make compromises based on when functionality is required. For instance worked on a website that was annual subscription based. We didnt implement a way for someone to renew thier subscription when we launched the site.  Oh my god we will lose business because people wont be able to renew. No since it was annual we knew we had no reason to have a requirment completed for launch if it wasnt going to be used for most of the 1st year.

 

Was this your 2nd or 3rd website that your customers are transferring from?  The same customers that had this "annual renewal" subscriptions for the previous interations?  Was this... screw it, I can't even continue with your horrible analogy. The fact of the matter is, it's a feature that was included in X360 so people can manage their data and it's not there now. With a 500 gb HDD and the size of installation on both consoles it's a shitty design flaw not to include this at launch. With so many people mentioning it out of gate it is obviously "needed" now not later.

No it's not. Even if you bought every single game plus it's DLC, you would not use up all of your hard drive space. Not to mention you can very easily delete your games (your saves are saved in the cloud and can't be managed yet).

So no, it is not needed at all right now. They should definitely add total file management by the springtime though. People are mentioning it right out of the gate because it's a nice feature to have, and they want it added, not because they need it.

Fair enough then. So the next PC i buy i'll tell them it doesn't matter what size hdd I get because I don't need to see the storage capacity or need to manage it in 2013 because any content I have such as games, movies, music etc I'll just delete it when i get the error message "Not enough storage" on my all in one system..

No because immediatly upon getting that PC you could fill up the drive with stuff from other PCs or that you create/download. That isnt the case with the X1. As people said already at this point you cant fill up the HDD.  



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

michael_stutzer on 03 December 2013

I am confused; isn't this the same Edge magazine which was praised so much when it was pro Xbox 360 by certain users here? They are called dickheads now, strange.