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Euphoria14 on 03 December 2013
kowenicki said:
Euphoria14 said:
kowenicki said:

coming in an update.

like many things for PS4 and Xbox one.

Understood, but just because something is said to be on it's way in an update does not mean it cannot be mentioned and complained about. This article is the man's complaints about the XBone UI in it's current state. You can't get mad because that issue has been aknowledged and they say they are working on and will release at a future date.

Do they have an article about the PS4 interface and OS? I would expect that to complain about the DLC issue where some DLC you download cannot be retrieved if you accidentally delete it. Mainly goes for preorder DLC not found on the PSNStore.

It is getting fixed, but as of right now it is in fact an issue and by all means should be mentioned in articles that show faults.

 

 

 

However, this man does seem to dislike Windows 8, which is probably why he also dislikes the XBone interface.

Edge have gone very weird lately, too partisan.  I suspect they will overlook the DLC issue, the trophy sync issue (still ? really!?) and any other issue.  Its how they are rollin' at the moment.

Trophies do still sync, that is true. However, on PS3 the sync would no joke take like 20-30 seconds. Now it takes ~3-5 seconds. It is a big time upgrade from what it was before.

Looking forward to their criticisms of the PS4 UI.

 

 

This is also why these outlets should not be doing hardware reviews before they are actually released.



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Dark_Feanor on 03 December 2013

Jornalists have their XOne for more than month, and the reports of UI having a little stepy learning curve is well know, as with some features that are missing (data manage, battery indication...).

So, why just now this guy go into a rant for things that are clear to any one that spent some time with the system?

Is the lack o news or anything important to report/talk about afecting those sites?



thx1139 on 03 December 2013
You can’t view or manage storage, a spectacularly poor decision given that the 500GB hard drive will be approaching capacity by March. 

Really I hate when you see criticisms of features that are coming, but just not needed yet. In software development you make compromises based on when functionality is required. For instance worked on a website that was annual subscription based. We didnt implement a way for someone to renew thier subscription when we launched the site.  Oh my god we will lose business because people wont be able to renew. No since it was annual we knew we had no reason to have a requirment completed for launch if it wasnt going to be used for most of the 1st year.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

Blood_Tears on 03 December 2013
thx1139 said:
You can’t view or manage storage, a spectacularly poor decision given that the 500GB hard drive will be approaching capacity by March. 

Really I hate when you see criticisms of features that are coming, but just not needed yet. In software development you make compromises based on when functionality is required. For instance worked on a website that was annual subscription based. We didnt implement a way for someone to renew thier subscription when we launched the site.  Oh my god we will lose business because people wont be able to renew. No since it was annual we knew we had no reason to have a requirment completed for launch if it wasnt going to be used for most of the 1st year.

 

Was this your 2nd or 3rd website that your customers are transferring from?  The same customers that had this "annual renewal" subscriptions for the previous interations?  Was this... screw it, I can't even continue with your horrible analogy. The fact of the matter is, it's a feature that was included in X360 so people can manage their data and it's not there now. With a 500 gb HDD and the size of installation on both consoles it's a shitty design flaw not to include this at launch. With so many people mentioning it out of gate it is obviously "needed" now not later.



yo_john117 on 03 December 2013
Blood_Tears said:
thx1139 said:
You can’t view or manage storage, a spectacularly poor decision given that the 500GB hard drive will be approaching capacity by March. 

Really I hate when you see criticisms of features that are coming, but just not needed yet. In software development you make compromises based on when functionality is required. For instance worked on a website that was annual subscription based. We didnt implement a way for someone to renew thier subscription when we launched the site.  Oh my god we will lose business because people wont be able to renew. No since it was annual we knew we had no reason to have a requirment completed for launch if it wasnt going to be used for most of the 1st year.

 

Was this your 2nd or 3rd website that your customers are transferring from?  The same customers that had this "annual renewal" subscriptions for the previous interations?  Was this... screw it, I can't even continue with your horrible analogy. The fact of the matter is, it's a feature that was included in X360 so people can manage their data and it's not there now. With a 500 gb HDD and the size of installation on both consoles it's a shitty design flaw not to include this at launch. With so many people mentioning it out of gate it is obviously "needed" now not later.

No it's not. Even if you bought every single game plus it's DLC, you would not use up all of your hard drive space. Not to mention you can very easily delete your games (your saves are saved in the cloud and can't be managed yet).

So no, it is not needed at all right now. They should definitely add total file management by the springtime though. People are mentioning it right out of the gate because it's a nice feature to have, and they want it added, not because they need it.



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gooch_destroyer on 03 December 2013

Man, he really hates the UI.



Blood_Tears on 03 December 2013
yo_john117 said:
Blood_Tears said:
thx1139 said:
You can’t view or manage storage, a spectacularly poor decision given that the 500GB hard drive will be approaching capacity by March. 

Really I hate when you see criticisms of features that are coming, but just not needed yet. In software development you make compromises based on when functionality is required. For instance worked on a website that was annual subscription based. We didnt implement a way for someone to renew thier subscription when we launched the site.  Oh my god we will lose business because people wont be able to renew. No since it was annual we knew we had no reason to have a requirment completed for launch if it wasnt going to be used for most of the 1st year.

 

Was this your 2nd or 3rd website that your customers are transferring from?  The same customers that had this "annual renewal" subscriptions for the previous interations?  Was this... screw it, I can't even continue with your horrible analogy. The fact of the matter is, it's a feature that was included in X360 so people can manage their data and it's not there now. With a 500 gb HDD and the size of installation on both consoles it's a shitty design flaw not to include this at launch. With so many people mentioning it out of gate it is obviously "needed" now not later.

No it's not. Even if you bought every single game plus it's DLC, you would not use up all of your hard drive space. Not to mention you can very easily delete your games (your saves are saved in the cloud and can't be managed yet).

So no, it is not needed at all right now. They should definitely add total file management by the springtime though. People are mentioning it right out of the gate because it's a nice feature to have, and they want it added, not because they need it.

Fair enough then. So the next PC i buy i'll tell them it doesn't matter what size hdd I get because I don't need to see the storage capacity or need to manage it in 2013 because any content I have such as games, movies, music etc I'll just delete it when i get the error message "Not enough storage" on my all in one system..



globalisateur on 03 December 2013

Didn't Edge already choose their favorite console (PS4) months ago?

This article should not surprise you.



tres on 03 December 2013

i saw edge and said pass



yo_john117 on 03 December 2013
Blood_Tears said:
yo_john117 said:
Blood_Tears said:

Was this your 2nd or 3rd website that your customers are transferring from?  The same customers that had this "annual renewal" subscriptions for the previous interations?  Was this... screw it, I can't even continue with your horrible analogy. The fact of the matter is, it's a feature that was included in X360 so people can manage their data and it's not there now. With a 500 gb HDD and the size of installation on both consoles it's a shitty design flaw not to include this at launch. With so many people mentioning it out of gate it is obviously "needed" now not later.

No it's not. Even if you bought every single game plus it's DLC, you would not use up all of your hard drive space. Not to mention you can very easily delete your games (your saves are saved in the cloud and can't be managed yet).

So no, it is not needed at all right now. They should definitely add total file management by the springtime though. People are mentioning it right out of the gate because it's a nice feature to have, and they want it added, not because they need it.

Fair enough then. So the next PC i buy i'll tell them it doesn't matter what size hdd I get because I don't need to see the storage capacity or need to manage it in 2013 because any content I have such as games, movies, music etc I'll just delete it when i get the error message "Not enough storage" on my all in one system..

So your problem is with the Harddrive size, not the lack of true management. Because what you just said, and what's actually going on with the X1 are two different things. Not to mention you're totally disregarding the fact that the such functionality will be added with an update (probably in the same update that allows for any external harddrive to be used as storage) and that said update will most likely show up sometime in the spring.

Right now, in it's current state, the X1 doesn't need true file management. You can delete any games, apps, or DLC (and I'm sure movies, music, and TV shows as well) of your choosing that you downloaded/installed with absolute ease. I'm not saying it's not a nice feature to have, I'm saying it's not needed in the Xbox One's current state because the main part of that functionality is already there.