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Forums - Sales - VGC tracking of PS4 games in Europe - time for some feedback?

I've been complaining for quite some time now that three weeks ago, Call of Duty: Ghosts (PS4) released in the UK; yet it registered 0 sales here on VGChartz:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=171844

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41588/UK/

TOP 40 ENTERTAINMENT SOFTWARE - INDIVIDUAL FORMATS (UNITS), WEEK ENDING 9 November 2013

LW

  TW     Title Format Label Publisher
- 1     CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS XB360 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
- 2     CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS PS3 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
2 3     BATTLEFIELD 4 XB360 EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
1 4     ASSASSIN'S CREED IV: BLACK FLAG XB360 UBISOFT UBISOFT
6 5     FIFA 14 XB360 EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
- 6     CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS PS4 ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
1
Call of Duty: Ghosts (X360)
Activision, Shooter
493,844 493,844 1
2
Call of Duty: Ghosts (PS3)
Activision, Shooter
264,924 264,924 1
3
Battlefield 4 (X360)
Electronic Arts, Shooter
38,052 116,298 2
4
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag (X360)
Ubisoft, Action
31,543 119,299 2
5
FIFA 14 (X360)
Electronic Arts, Sports
29,342 894,506 7
6
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag (PS3)
Ubisoft, Action
20,595 77,541 2

 

(It also charted the next week at #36 and still wasn't counted).

We've just been given the German numbers for last week.  You'd expect it to somewhat match the official numbers provided by Mediabiz for the region.  Which it does; expect it completely ignores all the PS4 releases and just ranks by every surrounding release instead:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=173260

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41602/Germany/

01 (NE) PS4 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS
02 (NE) PC ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
03 (NE) PS4 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
04 (NE) 3DS THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: A LINK BETWEEN WORLDS (NINTENDO)
05 (NE) XBO FORZA MOTORSPORT 5 (MICROSOFT)

1
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag (PC)
Unknown, Action
37,340 37,340 1
2
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds (3DS)
Nintendo, Action
33,084 33,084 1
3
Forza Motorsport 5 (XOne)
Microsoft Game Studios, Racing
30,441 30,441 1
4
Battlefield 4 (XOne)
Electronic Arts, Shooter
28,617 28,617 1
5
Call of Duty: Ghosts (PS3)
Activision, Shooter
26,902 293,591 3

 

I'm just wondering if we're ever going to get any feedback on what's happening here.  My presumption is that they're just going to all all the previous weeks sales into one massive week for PS4... but part of me is also beginning to believe that they won't do that and will just count week 1 sales.

And regardless, the games actually released and we haven't counted them at all.  I know VGC is just estimated numbers, but I don't see the harm in tracking accurately when we're given valid sources providing the information on a silver platter.

If they choose to add all the previous week's sales into one massive week: that'll be incorrect; and make week 1 sales seem more inflated than they actually are.  If they don't do anything and only count week 1 sales; then that's wrong and multiple games will be undertracked.

So, I'm posting this mostly on the off-chance that we get some feedback about what's going on.  Will the charts be fixed at a later date?  Will all the sales be added into one week?  Will the sales never be counted?  If so, why?



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kowenicki said:
Kinda doesnt matter. Software sales numbers here are pointless now. Digital content not being counted renders them and perhaps all trackers useless imo. Someone needs to start tracking both properly.


Oh, I agree.  I've already discussed with you my irritation at VGC including download cards for Wii Party U in Japan but not in the case of other games.  And I think we need a whole separate explanation about how VGC is going to handle digital tracking going forward.

It's just, in the here and now, we're given a good source of how software sales are in UK/Germany and they're actively ignored.  And for all that VGC's tracking is off, as a measure of historic sales figures it tends to hold up a little better once the dust has settled and they've had chance to make adjustments to correct figures.

But if they're getting it wrong straight off the bat despite the fact that we're given the ranking + estimates to help fill in the numbers, then that doesn't bode well for "down the line" numbers.



I read an article on here stating that they lump all pre-release games into the week 1 sales. So that is what Vgchartz does.

/crazythread ;)



Currently own:

 

  • Ps4

 

Currently playing: Witcher 3, Walking Dead S1/2, GTA5, Dying Light, Tomb Raider Remaster, MGS Ground Zeros

I agree... the software tracking is so bad that a game selling 1.2M on physic copy is "reported" (here read believed and hoped by crazy person) to have total selling of 5M when digital is included.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

ps3-sales! said:
I read an article on here stating that they lump all pre-release games into the week 1 sales. So that is what Vgchartz does.

/crazythread ;)


Sauce!



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Kresnik said:
ps3-sales! said:
I read an article on here stating that they lump all pre-release games into the week 1 sales. So that is what Vgchartz does.

/crazythread ;)


Sauce!


Standby. I shall find it!



Currently own:

 

  • Ps4

 

Currently playing: Witcher 3, Walking Dead S1/2, GTA5, Dying Light, Tomb Raider Remaster, MGS Ground Zeros

kowenicki said:

Well I think in this case there s a precedent where they just throw pre launch and launch week numbers together in the official 1st week.  Was it LBP that it happened with?  It certainly happened once or twice before.


It happened with LBP Vita, which had its street date broken.  Slightly different than these games which had an official release date; just before the console came out.

If ps3-sales finds his source that they're lumping all pre-release sales into week 1, though, that answers my question (although it certainly doesn't solve the problem).



Can't find article.... But it was there. Take my word for it. If we can't trust others, what has this world come to?



Currently own:

 

  • Ps4

 

Currently playing: Witcher 3, Walking Dead S1/2, GTA5, Dying Light, Tomb Raider Remaster, MGS Ground Zeros

ps3-sales! said:
Can't find article.... But it was there. Take my word for it. If we can't trust others, what has this world come to?

It would certainly explain everything.

I'm going to be watching those first-week sales extremely closely, though...



I think everything will be sum in the next week for EU.