Oyvoyvoyv said:
About Wii costs and so, this might be a little (or perhaps a lot) off topic, but I'll ask.
Another thread here said that Sony made 6 dollars pr Ps2 sold now, and Ps2s are selling at 80-100 dollars, right? That means the Ps2 costs roughly 90 dollars to make today. The Wii is much more powerful than that, yet Nintendo's average profit pr Wii sold worldwide, is over 90 dollars. For USA the average is then about 60 dollars. 250-60 = 190.
That means the Wii costs 190 to produce, while the Ps2 costs 90. Let's say the Wii hardware (only GPU, CPU and that stuff I don't know anything about) costs 50 dollars more. That means all the motion-sensing stuff, the online abilities, and so on, only costs roughly 50 dollars. Why are there then no other consoles that have an additional SKU with motion sensing?
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First there are few things to consider, which are what does average mean. If we look at WW, how PS2 sells in different monetary regions. For example at the late last year PS2 was more than 200USD in Finland.
Another thing is that how much it makes profit to who. The ratil may get bigger share from PS2 than what they get from Wii.
Now if we look at CPU:s, Emotion Engine is custom built unsymmetric dual-processor, while Broadway is customised G3. I'm not sure about the EE manufacturing process, but Broadway is made with 90nM process, while EE started with +200nM.
Same goes for Graphics Synthetisizer, which is custom built GPU, while Hollywood is customised from Atis standard GPU.
Sony have added features to PS2, which raise costs while they have pushed costs down otherwise.
You need less materials for Wii, since it's smaller.
Nintendo may have more efficient shipping process.
So, in general, Nintendo doesn't have any tech in Wii, which wouldn't be used anywhere else (except for CPU and GPU, which propably aren't used anywhere else anymore, but were when they were designed).
Conclusion is, that Nintendo has more effient design-manufacturing-shipping process than Sony, while it's hard to say how low Nintendo can push Wiis costs. Besides, Wii is more than double the price of PS2 (varies regionally).