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RenCutypoison said:


Real time and turn based strategy are really different, but they have the same weight to me. It's not about having an elaborate strategy you tought while drinking coffee between two turns, it's about taking the good decision fast and well.

In another genre, you can't say Age of empire has less strategy than civilization. That's just different. There is even strategy in COD (read an amazing article comparing startegy in FFVI against CODMW2).


Well yeah but it has nothing to do with real time strategy games. Kingdom Hearts is an action RPG, kinda more like a hack and slash. My complaint is with the second game mostly, where you could win the game by pressing the X button and activating the reaction commands. Sure you had to be fast and have timing but I felt no challenge from it.

I am not dissmising entire games, just Kingdom Hearts! Call of Duty certainly has it's strategy and Age of Empires is obviously a very complicated game with lots of strategy. I don't play many RTS games though but I played enough to know they are complicated and full of strategy.

My problem is that FF XV is using the same battle system as KH. And KH is a game that I never felt I had to use "strategy" or best decisions. They only thing there was to the game was pressing the X button and activating the reaction commands. The summons and magic spells where usless (except for Cure of course). I hope it isn't anything like that game, or that if it uses the same combat, that they refine it and make it better.



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VXIII said:
brendude13 said:
"If noctis dies then its Game Over."

Now let's see how much hate this gets compared to FFXIII...


Fans would not be so picky as there is so much to like about XV, unlike XIII , there was so much to hate in it.

If there were so many other aspects about the game to hate, I'm sure something like that would just be swept under the rug.

...It wasn't. It seemed to be one of the main reasons people hated the game.



Unfortunately for fans of turn-based combat I suspect that its time in mainline FFs is up - they sell to too wide an audience and too many fans who aren't necessarily that hardcore to use that sort of system, particularly in the west (though Japan adores FF most of all, it sells more abroad purely due to population sizes). To risk such a huge budget game with an battle system percieved as old-fashioned is too dangerous, so I suspect that though turn-based games will live on, it will be in smaller titles like Bravely Default



brendude13 said:

If there were so many other aspects about the game to hate, I'm sure something like that would just be swept under the rug.

...It wasn't. It seemed to be one of the main reasons people hated the game.

That's a lot of assumptions right there.

Yeah, FF hardcore fans are picky, but that should be a bit too far, specially given a lot of other estabilished RPGs throw you a game over screen if your main character falls, like Bioware or Bethesda games, and they aren't exactly blasted to oblivion because of that.



 

 

 

 

 

brendude13 said:
VXIII said:
brendude13 said:
"If noctis dies then its Game Over."

Now let's see how much hate this gets compared to FFXIII...


Fans would not be so picky as there is so much to like about XV, unlike XIII , there was so much to hate in it.

If there were so many other aspects about the game to hate, I'm sure something like that would just be swept under the rug.

...It wasn't. It seemed to be one of the main reasons people hated the game.

That is an exaggeration imo. People hated the game design as a whole , the narrow paths and some serious weakness in the story; over dramatic characters, no clear motivation for the characters to go on, no main enemy, the game also didn't elaborate on the great mythology that the world was woven around, also useless summons . etc.

Don't get me wrong, I did like XIII. Most people didn't, and that was not because of the battle system. When people hate something they use every chance to bash it.



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Those names.... are really annoying..... hopefully the game will be good.....