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Option- on 26 November 2013

Ressources 50:50 and that´s it.
"But peace is boring" -.-



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NobleTeam360 on 26 November 2013
IsawYoshi said:
kumagawa said:
Total number of islands 5 + 3 rocks, total area 7 square kilometres.

So who the hell cares who has them!

Japan should just let China have the uninhabited islands hell they are closer to China than Japan anyway. And after what Japan has done to China in the past, if I was Chinese I wouldn't be too keen on Japan being any closer either.

You don't get it. It's what underwater they care about. Not the land. It's the oil. Japan have had power supply problems for a while, and then the fukoshima disaster happened, so they shut down a lot of Nuclear powerplants. So now the spend gigantic amouts of money buying power, money they do not have. That's why they want the islands.

This, I'm really starting to get annoyed with how China is behaving towards other Asian countries. No wonder Japan, S. Korea, Vietnam, etc..... are fed up with China. 



IsawYoshi on 26 November 2013
NobleTeam360 said:
IsawYoshi said:
kumagawa said:
Total number of islands 5 + 3 rocks, total area 7 square kilometres.

So who the hell cares who has them!

Japan should just let China have the uninhabited islands hell they are closer to China than Japan anyway. And after what Japan has done to China in the past, if I was Chinese I wouldn't be too keen on Japan being any closer either.

You don't get it. It's what underwater they care about. Not the land. It's the oil. Japan have had power supply problems for a while, and then the fukoshima disaster happened, so they shut down a lot of Nuclear powerplants. So now the spend gigantic amouts of money buying power, money they do not have. That's why they want the islands.

This, I'm really starting to get annoyed with how China is behaving towards other Asian countries. No wonder Japan, S. Korea, Vietnam, etc..... are fed up with China. 

What's worse is that we have (sort of) seen this before. With Nazi Germany. They took land, and the world responded "ok, if you stop doing it we're going to ignore it," and look what happened. Who knows if this is ever going to happen here, but this is not Chinas land, and they need to respect that. If Japan and the US doesn't stand up agains this, who knows what the continuation is going to be.





NYANKS on 26 November 2013
IsawYoshi said:
NobleTeam360 said:
IsawYoshi said:
kumagawa said:
Total number of islands 5 + 3 rocks, total area 7 square kilometres.

So who the hell cares who has them!

Japan should just let China have the uninhabited islands hell they are closer to China than Japan anyway. And after what Japan has done to China in the past, if I was Chinese I wouldn't be too keen on Japan being any closer either.

You don't get it. It's what underwater they care about. Not the land. It's the oil. Japan have had power supply problems for a while, and then the fukoshima disaster happened, so they shut down a lot of Nuclear powerplants. So now the spend gigantic amouts of money buying power, money they do not have. That's why they want the islands.

This, I'm really starting to get annoyed with how China is behaving towards other Asian countries. No wonder Japan, S. Korea, Vietnam, etc..... are fed up with China. 

What's worse is that we have (sort of) seen this before. With Nazi Germany. They took land, and the world responded "ok, if you stop doing it we're going to ignore it," and look what happened. Who knows if this is ever going to happen here, but this is not Chinas land, and they need to respect that. If Japan and the US doesn't stand up agains this, who knows what the continuation is going to be.

The U.S is always in a tough spot, if they interfere everyone says we don't have the right, but if they don't they are abandoning people.



prayformojo on 26 November 2013
daredevil.shark said:
China has $1.3 trillion worth of foreign currency. If china want then they can cripple US economy (at the same time taking themselves out). I guess this will settle soon and everything will go back to normal.


Yes but the way the US economy works, they would recover. China would not.



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justinian on 26 November 2013
prayformojo said:
daredevil.shark said:
China has $1.3 trillion worth of foreign currency. If china want then they can cripple US economy (at the same time taking themselves out). I guess this will settle soon and everything will go back to normal.


Yes but the way the US economy works, they would recover. China would not.


All "expert" analysis I have read says otherwise but what do they know?

My prediction, nothing will come of this. The stakes are too high in this case. It would become just another land dispute like Kashmir, Gibraltor, The Falklands (yes a war was fought over that but Argentina is not exactly a military powerhouse), the Middle East, The Artic, Russia-China border, China-India border and God knows how many others that have dragged on for decades.



SxyxS on 26 November 2013
prayformojo said:
daredevil.shark said:
China has $1.3 trillion worth of foreign currency. If china want then they can cripple US economy (at the same time taking themselves out). I guess this will settle soon and everything will go back to normal.


Yes but the way the US economy works, they would recover. China would not.

How should they recover but China not.

 

The US of A have been deindustrialised.They import almost everything from China because they don't produce .

You need tools,facilities,infrastructure.There is almost nothing left in the usa except bad hollywood movies and silicon valley,but software and chips is the least you need when the Fan hits the shit.

f China gets rid of the their 1trillion dollars the dollar will fall.Saudi Arabia will Abandon the Petro Dollar as they won't sell their oil for nothing.The Petro Dollar is the last thing that is keeping the dollar alive as the Dollar is backed by Nothing else.

The Value of papermoney that is backed by nothing is= 0.

 

Chinese people know how to survive hard times.They have done this for decades under Maos dictatorship.

Americans ?They even don't know how to cook meal.Microwavefood & McShit.

Even if both fall down to 0 China will have much better chances to recover.

1.3billion people that act like one(being conditioned with communism+thousands of years of chinese culture) vs 300 mio people divided by a left/right paradigm ,north& south and racial problems and almost 0 culture and integrity.



justinian on 26 November 2013
SxyxS said:
prayformojo said:
daredevil.shark said:
China has $1.3 trillion worth of foreign currency. If china want then they can cripple US economy (at the same time taking themselves out). I guess this will settle soon and everything will go back to normal.


Yes but the way the US economy works, they would recover. China would not.

How should they recover but China not.

 

The US of A have been deindustrialised.They import almost everything from China because they don't produce .

You need tools,facilities,infrastructure.There is almost nothing left in the usa except bad hollywood movies and silicon valley,but software and chips is the least you need when the Fan hits the shit.

f China gets rid of the their 1trillion dollars the dollar will fall.Saudi Arabia will Abandon the Petro Dollar as they won't sell their oil for nothing.The Petro Dollar is the last thing that is keeping the dollar alive as the Dollar is backed by Nothing else.

The Value of papermoney that is backed by nothing is= 0.

 

Chinese people know how to survive hard times.They have done this for decades under Maos dictatorship.

Americans ?They even don't know how to cook meal.Microwavefood & McShit.

Even if both fall down to 0 China will have much better chances to recover.

1.3billion people that act like one(being conditioned with communism+thousands of years of chinese culture) vs 300 mio people divided by a left/right paradigm ,north& south and racial problems and almost 0 culture and integrity.


Maybe he is thinking of the America as it was in the 1950s. Now those SOBs would have survived anything.



VGPolyglot on 26 November 2013

Maybe it's because I'm more of a Japanophile, but I support Japan in the dispute. If China does someday take over the U.S., I guess it's a good thing that I'm learning Mandarin already, as I'll have a head start.



prayformojo on 26 November 2013
justinian said:
SxyxS said:
prayformojo said:
daredevil.shark said:
China has $1.3 trillion worth of foreign currency. If china want then they can cripple US economy (at the same time taking themselves out). I guess this will settle soon and everything will go back to normal.


Yes but the way the US economy works, they would recover. China would not.

How should they recover but China not.

 

The US of A have been deindustrialised.They import almost everything from China because they don't produce .

You need tools,facilities,infrastructure.There is almost nothing left in the usa except bad hollywood movies and silicon valley,but software and chips is the least you need when the Fan hits the shit.

f China gets rid of the their 1trillion dollars the dollar will fall.Saudi Arabia will Abandon the Petro Dollar as they won't sell their oil for nothing.The Petro Dollar is the last thing that is keeping the dollar alive as the Dollar is backed by Nothing else.

The Value of papermoney that is backed by nothing is= 0.

 

Chinese people know how to survive hard times.They have done this for decades under Maos dictatorship.

Americans ?They even don't know how to cook meal.Microwavefood & McShit.

Even if both fall down to 0 China will have much better chances to recover.

1.3billion people that act like one(being conditioned with communism+thousands of years of chinese culture) vs 300 mio people divided by a left/right paradigm ,north& south and racial problems and almost 0 culture and integrity.


Maybe he is thinking of the America as it was in the 1950s. Now those SOBs would have survived anything.


That's why they would be fine again imo. The way the US economy is structured, if needed, industry could be rebuilt in a heartbeat. Do you really think they'd just "give up" and fall apart? They survived the market crash of the 20's, they could survive anything. Not to mention, national spirit. I don't know if there's another country in history that is better at uniting when it needs to get something done. If there is, I haven't read about it or seen one.