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forevercloud3000 on 18 November 2013
jlmurph2 said:
forevercloud3000 said:
jlmurph2 said:

And then it makes even less sense considering that Squaretrade is the consistent survey for each one of these rates and then you use a game informer survey for the Xbox 360 rate. Why not stay consistent with Squaretrade?

I posted sqauretrade for a broader understanding of failure rates among electronics as a whole. The site doesn't give too much insight about the video game consoles tho so I used other sites to demonstrate that.

If you didn't notice, your Gamespot link used Squaretrade as their source

I don't see how thats relavent....

I posted that particular link so everyone can see the list of electronic failure rates. That page doesn't show Video Games. The Gamespot article on the other hand deals specifically with them(it uses SquareTrade documentation). They aren't contradicting each other. The Consumerist site shows a different study from Squaretrade performed by GameInformer that showed comparible info for both other consoles but disparity in 360 numbers.



      

      

      

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jlmurph2 on 18 November 2013
forevercloud3000 said:
jlmurph2 said:
forevercloud3000 said:
jlmurph2 said:

And then it makes even less sense considering that Squaretrade is the consistent survey for each one of these rates and then you use a game informer survey for the Xbox 360 rate. Why not stay consistent with Squaretrade?

I posted sqauretrade for a broader understanding of failure rates among electronics as a whole. The site doesn't give too much insight about the video game consoles tho so I used other sites to demonstrate that.

If you didn't notice, your Gamespot link used Squaretrade as their source

I don't see how thats relavent....

I posted that particular link so everyone can see the list of electronic failure rates. That page doesn't show Video Games. The Gamespot article on the other hand deals specifically with them(it uses SquareTrade documentation). They aren't contradicting each other. The Consumerist site shows a different study from Squaretrade performed by GameInformer that showed comparible info for both other consoles but disparity in 360 numbers.


Because you were consistent with Squaretrade until you got to Xbox 360. Which is when you went to the highest percentage you could find. If you're going to make comparisons of statistics then keep the same source.



forevercloud3000 on 18 November 2013
Licence said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Licence said:
forevercloud3000 said:

You under estimate the power of fanboy driven hatred. There are hundreds of User reviews on every site, only a few of them are real thought out reviews usually. Go see Metacritic URs which give Halo's and Uncharted's a 0/10. Mass user reviews are pretty unreliable.

also take note of MS's well versed Shill campaigns that they are famous for using. They hire hundreds of people to troll the internet just for this purpose....

http://techrights.org/2008/12/27/microsoft-shills-aka-te-secrets/

http://slated.org/the_munchkins_are_back

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIRNAQseuec

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/despicable-practices-by-microsoft-exposed-fud-ms-s-30834731/


Amazon has been known to shut down on reviews if they believe that they are malicious or being used for market manipulation. Yet for the PS4 they have done no such thing. 

Although your conspiracy theory is certainly possible, I think it is more probable that the PS4 is really having exceptional technical issues.

Its not much a conspiracy theory as much as it is a un kempt secret. There is loads of evidence of it.

and Amazon is one of the main sites that they do this on from what I've found, not much Amazon could do to stop it. They are careful of sounding like legitimate customers with an issue.


OK bud, whatever makes you sleep better. But to get back to the topic of the thread: let's say the PS4 *is* faulty beyond normal expectations, do you not think that Sony would deserve what they get, even if it comes from MS fans? Does it really matter whether the 360 was *also* defective? Shouldn't we expect good quality *regardless* of who is producing it?

If it IS faulty then fire all cilinders....but as it stands.....its not. Its normal run of the mill stuff being made to look like it is. Lets cross that bridge when we get there....or at least somewhere in it's ball park.

Comparing it to 360 just gives the situation an understandable perspective. No matter if its 0.4% or 10%, its not in the realm of bad yet(30%+).



      

      

      

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forevercloud3000 on 18 November 2013
jlmurph2 said:
forevercloud3000 said:
jlmurph2 said:
forevercloud3000 said:
jlmurph2 said:

And then it makes even less sense considering that Squaretrade is the consistent survey for each one of these rates and then you use a game informer survey for the Xbox 360 rate. Why not stay consistent with Squaretrade?

I posted sqauretrade for a broader understanding of failure rates among electronics as a whole. The site doesn't give too much insight about the video game consoles tho so I used other sites to demonstrate that.

If you didn't notice, your Gamespot link used Squaretrade as their source

I don't see how thats relavent....

I posted that particular link so everyone can see the list of electronic failure rates. That page doesn't show Video Games. The Gamespot article on the other hand deals specifically with them(it uses SquareTrade documentation). They aren't contradicting each other. The Consumerist site shows a different study from Squaretrade performed by GameInformer that showed comparible info for both other consoles but disparity in 360 numbers.


Because you were consistent with Squaretrade until you got to Xbox 360. Which is when you went to the highest percentage you could find. If you're going to make comparisons of statistics then keep the same source.


SquareTrade/GameInformer

PS3: 10/10.6

Wii:2.4/4.0 something

360:23/52.4

 

The disparity between the two studies when it comes to Wii and PS3 was so marginal I didn't think it needed pointing out. 360 has a much larger gap between, with more studies putting it closer to 50 so I gave it a range in that post.



      

      

      

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Licence on 18 November 2013

forevercloud3000 said:

If it IS faulty then fire all cilinders....but as it stands.....its not. Its normal run of the mill stuff being made to look like it is. Lets cross that bridge when we get there....or at least somewhere in it's ball park.

Comparing it to 360 just gives the situation an understandable perspective. No matter if its 0.4% or 10%, its not in the realm of bad yet(30%+).


Then so be it. Using the 360 as a baseline is rather defeatist, we should have much better standards than that.

Let's focus on what we think is an acceptable failure rate, and see if the PS4 achieves it or not. MS shills or not, it is not looking too good in my opinion, but we should wait a few weeks and see.



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orniletter on 18 November 2013
Kyuu said:
BenVTrigger said:
My PS4 just died litteraly 5 minutes ago.

If you buy this console without an extended warranty your insane.


So because your console died everyone who doesn't make an extended warrany is automatically insane? sweet.


Beacause the failure rates seem to be higher than the Sony fans want to admit ?

Sweet !



pbroy on 18 November 2013

I Come to this forum to be welcomed to mostly see, "Xbone sucks" topics. Now what is this? This is like the second thread I've seen in the past 24 hours talking about, stop picking on me. I haven't seen anyone picking on you. Is this the unicorn of imagination that ethomaz keeps bringing up, whenever people talk positive things about the Xbox one? The unicorn has turned evil and is destroying PS4s? o_O

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forevercloud3000 on 18 November 2013
Licence said:

forevercloud3000 said:

If it IS faulty then fire all cilinders....but as it stands.....its not. Its normal run of the mill stuff being made to look like it is. Lets cross that bridge when we get there....or at least somewhere in it's ball park.

Comparing it to 360 just gives the situation an understandable perspective. No matter if its 0.4% or 10%, its not in the realm of bad yet(30%+).


Then so be it. Using the 360 as a baseline is rather defeatist, we should have much better standards than that.

Let's focus on what we think is an acceptable failure rate, and see if the PS4 achieves it or not. MS shills or not, it is not looking too good in my opinion, but we should wait a few weeks and see.


its not a baseline, its worst case scenario

baseline i would say is 10%, which is what PS3 was. Most don't see PS3 as having a bad failure rate so thats a good area to be in. Its not even close to that, with the knowledge we know right now.



      

      

      

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fighter on 18 November 2013
Kyuu said:
BenVTrigger said:
My PS4 just died litteraly 5 minutes ago.

If you buy this console without an extended warranty your insane.


So because your console died everyone who doesn't make an extended warrany is automatically insane? sweet.


Even if only 1 per cent of the 1 million consoles dies within 4 days (10000) that would mean that of the remaining 990 000 of the first batch 9900 are likely to die in the following 4 days bringing the percentage to 1,99 within 8 days.

Of course the failure rates are usually calculated per year, it would be stupid of me to make an estimate as any variation from that 1 per cent (could be .4, could be 1.4, etc.) makes a world of difference.

But if that failure rate ends up reaching anywhere close to 30 per cent that would eat Sony's revenues for years to come.

 



orniletter on 18 November 2013
Kyuu said:
orniletter said:
Kyuu said:
BenVTrigger said:
My PS4 just died litteraly 5 minutes ago.

If you buy this console without an extended warranty your insane.


So because your console died everyone who doesn't make an extended warrany is automatically insane? sweet.


Beacause the failure rates seem to be higher than the Sony fans want to admit ?

Sweet !

And how much is the failure rate again?


Ben V Trigger WORKS for gamestop, he said how great the momentum for the PS4 was in a different thread (this shows that he isn´t a butthurt XBox fanboy or whatever someone could come up with to discredit his observations)

And he happens to say that the Dead on arrival-PS4s are a problem, to what extent remains to be seen, so to be on the save side, everyone should get the extended warranty.

 

Jesus Christ