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Forums - Sony - Killzone Shadow Fall metacritic FLOP CONFIRMED: 73 on 17 reviews

sales2099 on 14 November 2013
Hynad said:
sales2099 said:
shinsa said:
Since when has a 73 meant a flop? in my books that means the game is pretty good, not a master piece but can be very enjoyable. Also ive seen many mixed reviews with some sites giving it 8,8 or 8, which means great in my books...however i know to some, if a game doesnt get a 9 then its shit.

Im not a shooter guy but i would buy Shadow fall over battlefield and COD anyday.

I think gamers reply to much on reviews and quite frankly...its sad...I've played many underrated games that score high and low and i love them. Dont be sheep and make your own decision.

Flopping is seperate from ones own personal view of quality. 70's games are fantastic IMO. But in this case people predicted mostly a 80's meta.

So it flopped. Big deal. Has nothing at all to do with quality.

No, it doesn't have to do with quality. It's about sales. A product flops if it doesn't meet SALES expectations. You have that word as you nickname, yet you don't even get that... ¬_¬


flop

 verb ˈfläp

: to fall, lie, or sit down in a sudden, awkward, or relaxed way

: to fail completely

: to swing or move in a loose, awkward, or uncontrolled way


I don't see how a game can have failed completely based on just critics reviews. It will have failed completely if it doesn't meet sales expectations. ¬_¬

Then why is the OP, and many people in the thread.....using that word when sales havent begun yet? Answer that.

Urban dictionary supports me, since this is more of a slang word anyway, being in a gamer circle and all.

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12. flop
To not achieve wanted results or to fail miserably
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So its not like we in this thread just invented a new meaning, no need to be a dictionary n$zi (for lack of a better word) to save face for a inanimate video game. lol cmon.


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sales2099 on 14 November 2013
Hynad said:
sales2099 said:
 

Yes it does, if people choose it to. You do not decide how people use words and words can have the capacity to have more then one use in a sentence.

The thread title says the word flop. People int he thread are using that word. Sales are non-existant at the moment. What does that tell you? That everybody is wrong? Who are you to tell me the dictionary is static and new words/meanings aren't added and changed as time goes by?

What righteous stance do you have that comes to the defense of not a brand or corporation.....but the use of a word in the dictionary?

Please, tell me.

Oh right. "Let's use that word since it helps the negativity I want to spread about the PS brand. Let's redefine the way words are used to fit the agenda."

The thread title says the word flop. People do all kind of things, you know? Do you condone them all, even when it's wrong or when things are misused?

Seriously, the things you come up with sometimes.


But since you're asking, am I not allowed to disagree with your usage of the word "flop" for reasons I already stated? 

Actually my message is "flops happen on both sides. Either make a more safe prediction next time or take it like a man, as I full expect X1 games to flop"

You on the other hand are pretending dictionaries DONT add words and meanings over the course of time, in order to save face. lol



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Hynad on 14 November 2013
sales2099 said:
Hynad said:
sales2099 said:
 

Yes it does, if people choose it to. You do not decide how people use words and words can have the capacity to have more then one use in a sentence.

The thread title says the word flop. People int he thread are using that word. Sales are non-existant at the moment. What does that tell you? That everybody is wrong? Who are you to tell me the dictionary is static and new words/meanings aren't added and changed as time goes by?

What righteous stance do you have that comes to the defense of not a brand or corporation.....but the use of a word in the dictionary?

Please, tell me.

Oh right. "Let's use that word since it helps the negativity I want to spread about the PS brand. Let's redefine the way words are used to fit the agenda."

The thread title says the word flop. People do all kind of things, you know? Do you condone them all, even when it's wrong or when things are misused?

Seriously, the things you come up with sometimes.


But since you're asking, am I not allowed to disagree with your usage of the word "flop" for reasons I already stated? 

Actually my message is "flops happen on both sides. Either make a more safe prediction next time or take it like a man, as I full expect X1 games to flop"

You on the other hand are pretending dictionaries DONT add words and meaning over the course of time to save face. lol

I haven't said that. I have used the current definition. You're using a user generated open dictionary as your way out. ¬_¬



fatslob-:O on 14 November 2013
Hynad said:
sales2099 said:
Hynad said:
sales2099 said:
 

Yes it does, if people choose it to. You do not decide how people use words and words can have the capacity to have more then one use in a sentence.

The thread title says the word flop. People int he thread are using that word. Sales are non-existant at the moment. What does that tell you? That everybody is wrong? Who are you to tell me the dictionary is static and new words/meanings aren't added and changed as time goes by?

What righteous stance do you have that comes to the defense of not a brand or corporation.....but the use of a word in the dictionary?

Please, tell me.

Oh right. "Let's use that word since it helps the negativity I want to spread about the PS brand. Let's redefine the way words are used to fit the agenda."

The thread title says the word flop. People do all kind of things, you know? Do you condone them all, even when it's wrong or when things are misused?

Seriously, the things you come up with sometimes.


But since you're asking, am I not allowed to disagree with your usage of the word "flop" for reasons I already stated? 

Actually my message is "flops happen on both sides. Either make a more safe prediction next time or take it like a man, as I full expect X1 games to flop"

You on the other hand are pretending dictionaries DONT add words and meaning over the course of time to save face. lol

I haven't said that. I have used the current definition. You're using a user generated open dictionary as your way out. ¬_¬

Funny how his name starts with "sales" and he doesn't even know what the word "flop" means in business terms. (I smell some extreme irony here LOL.)



sales2099 on 14 November 2013
Hynad said:
sales2099 said:

Actually my message is "flops happen on both sides. Either make a more safe prediction next time or take it like a man, as I full expect X1 games to flop"

You on the other hand are pretending dictionaries DONT add words and meaning over the course of time to save face. lol

I haven't said that. I have used the current definition. You're using a user generated open dictionary as your way out. ¬_¬

You know the meaning you gave me "to fail completely" is vague and open for interpretation? Because it is. And flop is more of a slang word and you know it.

Actually, you are saying that dictionaries don't add words and additional meanings over the course of time. You said that when you try to denounce the addition of a new meaning that you currently think doesn't have a place (all though the definition is again, open for interpretation).

Your trying to save face, and I am trying to say flops just happen. Has nothing to do with quality or peoples enjoyment.



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sales2099 on 14 November 2013
fatslob-:O said:
Hynad said:
 

I haven't said that. I have used the current definition. You're using a user generated open dictionary as your way out. ¬_¬

Funny how his name starts with "sales" and he doesn't even know what the word "flop" means in business terms. (I smell some extreme irony here LOL.)

You only look worse because his official definition is open to interpretation, and urban dictionary supports the stance since the word is more slang after all.

Words having more then one use.......its witchcraft and I must be burnt at the stake! lol



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Play4Fun on 14 November 2013
fatslob-:O said:

Funny how his name starts with "sales" and he doesn't even know what the word "flop" means in business terms. (I smell some extreme irony here LOL.)

What flop means in business terms and what it means on gaming forums are two different things and that should be well known by now.

Not sure why people are jumping down sales2099's throat.



Hynad on 14 November 2013
sales2099 said:
Hynad said:
sales2099 said:
 

Actually my message is "flops happen on both sides. Either make a more safe prediction next time or take it like a man, as I full expect X1 games to flop"

You on the other hand are pretending dictionaries DONT add words and meaning over the course of time to save face. lol

I haven't said that. I have used the current definition. You're using a user generated open dictionary as your way out. ¬_¬

You know the meaning you gave me "to fail completely" is vague and open for interpretation? Because it is. And flop is more of a slang word and you know it.

Actually, you are saying that dictionaries don't add words and additional meanings over the course of time. You said that when you try to denounce the addition of a new meaning that you currently think doesn't have a place (all though the definition is again, open for interpretation).

Your trying to save face, and I am trying to say flops just happen. Has nothing to do with quality or peoples enjoyment.

Am I saying that? Hum... I don't see where or when I said that.

But I do say it's not in the current dictionary.

And by the way, there are three use listed for that word in the dictionary definition I provided.  Witchcraft indeed.





Hynad on 14 November 2013
Play4Fun said:
fatslob-:O said:
 

Funny how his name starts with "sales" and he doesn't even know what the word "flop" means in business terms. (I smell some extreme irony here LOL.)

What flop means in business terms and what it means on gaming forums are two different things and that should be well known by now.

Not sure why people are jumping down sales2099's throat.


People are saying that the game isn't flopping just because of a lower than expected metacritics score.
The game will have flopped if it fails commercially. Just like any other flop that happen anywhere else (like, you know, in cinema). -__-



fatslob-:O on 14 November 2013
sales2099 said:
fatslob-:O said:
Hynad said:
 

I haven't said that. I have used the current definition. You're using a user generated open dictionary as your way out. ¬_¬

Funny how his name starts with "sales" and he doesn't even know what the word "flop" means in business terms. (I smell some extreme irony here LOL.)

You only look worse because his official definition is open to interpretation, and urban dictionary supports the stance since the word is more slang after all.

Words having more then one use.......its witchcraft and I must be burnt at the stake! lol

You still don't understand what "flop" means, don't you ? A flop is a game that will sell poorly and I highly doubt killzone SF will sell less than 2 mill lifetime. Since this is a game business site the term "flop" around here means sold poorly. Go to GAME sites instead of SALES sites to bring the the fight over there instead of here because metascores are irrelevant in a place called "vgchartz".