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Ji99saw on 07 November 2013

It's weak deal with it, the fact that there are people arguing about if it's slightly more powerful 8 year old hardware is a big indicator of how weak it is. In hindsight Ninja was right the whole time and was mocked for it. Even I have been banned for stating the truth. It is what it is, and power wise PS4 and X1 are going to stick their foots directly up Nintendo ass and check it into the smack-down hotel. And that's the truth



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Teriol on 07 November 2013
Mr Khan said:
sonic321 said:
kopstudent89 said:
How can one person say it's twice as strong as the PS3/360 and another say it's weaker than them. Let's try to agree on it cause it does not us who have no idea what they mean. Thing is it looks better than last gen to me from the potential I've seen, just not that much better tbf


it's basically a 360 with more ram, it's a sorry excuse for a nextgen console, your paying for last gen tech and no real third party support to boot.

You're new here, but comments like that are not appreciated.

must be an alter of ninjablade. lol



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Mr Khan on 07 November 2013
Ji99saw said:
It's weak deal with it, the fact that there are people arguing about if it's slightly more powerful 8 year old hardware is a big indicator of how weak it is. In hindsight Ninja was right the whole time and was mocked for it. Even I have been banned for stating the truth. It is what it is, and power wise PS4 and X1 are going to stick their foots directly up Nintendo ass and check it into the smack-down hotel. And that's the truth

Asserting that these things are truths is part of the reason why you get banned for stuff right this.



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forethought14 on 08 November 2013
fatslob-:O said:

Processing power in terms of what ? In terms of being able to get closer with the theoretical performance ? Sure 

They don't sound specific as to what they were limited by. Are they talking about the cpu ? Do they mean raw shading power ? Could they be talking about fillrates ? In terms of integer calculations ?

Getting closer with the theoretical performance of what? Latte? They're simply saying graphics processing power, PS360 just don't have enough power to run that expansion at that grahpical level, while Wii U does. In terms of what exactly, I'm not sure, graphics processing power could mean several things on the GPU side, but their game isn't CPU intensive, and they mentioned that they had no issue whatsoever with the CPU, so they are obviously not talking about anything CPU related.

[Frozenbyte was asked if there was any issue with porting Wii U due to its alleged "slow" CPU]

Frozenbyte:

None whatsoever. The whole architecture is running very well and we were able to ramp the T2 art to a higher degree than the

other consoles. So for porting no issues at all and there is a nice base for future original development too. Maybe some were

looking for a larger leap in terms of pure power, but in the end I believe most developers will be quite comfortable with the system

http://gamingbolt.com/trine-2-wii-u-exclusive-interview-with-frozenbyte

Though, they do say that the entire console does have more "pure power" compared to PS360 (and no, RAM isn't a metric when talking about "pure power")



fallen on 08 November 2013

What's amazing to me is that 160 VLIW5 ALU's in WIi U are keeping up with 240 ALU's equivalent in PS3/360.

It shows even 2009? GPU tech is quite more efficient than 360/PS3 designs. Bodes well for PS4/X1 as they are far more advanced than what's in Wii U, so each shader should be even more efficient.



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fallen on 08 November 2013
Ji99saw said:
It's weak deal with it, the fact that there are people arguing about if it's slightly more powerful 8 year old hardware is a big indicator of how weak it is. In hindsight Ninja was right the whole time and was mocked for it. Even I have been banned for stating the truth. It is what it is, and power wise PS4 and X1 are going to stick their foots directly up Nintendo ass and check it into the smack-down hotel. And that's the truth


Yeah that debate was over a long time ago.

 

Probably a better argument is diminishing returns. That sometimes next gen games dont look all that much better than current ones (we'll see if that's still true in 2-3 years though).

 

Even if you buy all the nonsense secret Wii U GPU power theories and whatnot, it still wouldn't change that Wii U has 1GB of game RAM vs 5GB in PS4/X1. That alone is a huge insurmountable gap even if the Wii U GPU was exactly as powerful as PS4's (of course it's nowhere close)



Ponyless on 08 November 2013
JoeTheBro said:
darkknightkryta said:
There's a certain person on this forum who's currently working on a Wii U title. Maybe if you ask her politely for an "estimate" she might be able to give you one.


If you don't mind me asking, which member are you refering to?

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F0X on 08 November 2013

The specs are unconfirmed, therefore I see no reason to care.



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Pemalite on 08 November 2013
curl-6 said:

It does more with less, I agree. I misunderstood your posts as sidestepping Frozenbyte's statements.


I'm glad that's a consensus that allot of people on this forum are now starting to finally reach. :P
Some people (Beleive it or not) think it all ends with Ram counts and Gflop numbers.




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oni-link on 08 November 2013
F0X said:
The specs are unconfirmed, therefore I see no reason to care.

 

Exactly, I for one don't put any worth into rumours especially rumours of some shadowy, secret, "developer" that wouldn't disclose it's identity!!!  I for one will always think the Wii U is closer to AMD 5550 or even the e6760 which makes more sense.  Besides frozenbyte and most recently ShinenGames already refuted how the development kits were "suppose" to have been downgraded!!! 

thread!!!

Surely this coincidence has something to do with Wii U's massive increase in sales in Japan!!! Slandering and defamation at it's bes http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/10/rumour_sony_running_campaign_to_push_potential_wii_u_buyers_towards_ps4_and_vitat...I hope Nintendo's legal team gets that guy from 'Gaf as he has not stopped this crusade of the Wii U being weaker than what it actually is!!!