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Shinobi-san said:

Witch time was only triggered when you counter right? Getting the timing right for a counter in Bayonetta is a bit more difficult than getting a counter in Batman, AC and im assuming Ryse. Enemies do a slow obvious attack on you one by one....you have all the time to counter in games like those. Bayonetta is more traditional hack n slash similar to DMC with tight timings and insane combos. And yeah sure you can play Bayonetta by just waiting and then counter...but who the hell plays bayonetta like that :?

Surely you see the difference between the two types of combat mechanics?

When you dodge/evade to be right... well it happen all the time... I'm attacking then the enemy try to hit me I hit R2 to dodge/evade and it enters in Witch Time... it is natural and you do without want to use Witch Time... I'm a guy that uses dodge/evade a lot in all games.

Both are easy but evade/dodge in Bayonetta is easy than a counter in Batman because it is easy to hit R2 to do that... there is no room to mistake and you didn't need timing at all... before you receive the hit push R2 = Witch Time.

DMC is far way more techinical and timing than Bayonetta... water to wine here... God of War III is more tecnical than Bayonetta.

About how I play the game... I go over the enyme all the time and when it will go to hit me I just dodge (aka enter in Witch Time)... I don't need strategy... just hit hit hit R2 hit hit R2 hit hit hit R2 hit hit hit hit hit hit R2.

And I play Bayonetta even without the witch time (you need any sword)... hold Triangle and wait all the enemies and when they are in your attack range just hit (90% of the enemies died with one hit in HARD... some needs two hits)... so you can do that: hold (2 seconds), Release + Hold again (2 seconds), Release + Hold again until kill any enemy without receive a hit (the enemy didn't have time to action at all)... use the Berserker amulet to make the enemies angry to go fast after you.

I will make a video just to show how easy it is .



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J_Allard said:

Uh.. that is exactly what every gameplay video I have seen shows.

I don't what you saw but I played it and it is nowhere close to what you described.



pezus said:
Sounds a lot like Crytek


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Well, I've read similar stuff in other previews as well, but supposedly, those were early builds and the game got better since. Nevertheless, those who'd played it in E3 had quite bad comments to make.

It's not surprising though... A game that started as a Kinect title, now "forced" to be played like a hack'n'slash. Eye candy and demonstration of X1's abilities is its purpose. It reminds some early Windows 95 games, all videos and on-rails gameplay.

For the sake of variety and competition, I hope it turns out to be good.



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ethomaz said:

Shinobi-san said:

Witch time was only triggered when you counter right? Getting the timing right for a counter in Bayonetta is a bit more difficult than getting a counter in Batman, AC and im assuming Ryse. Enemies do a slow obvious attack on you one by one....you have all the time to counter in games like those. Bayonetta is more traditional hack n slash similar to DMC with tight timings and insane combos. And yeah sure you can play Bayonetta by just waiting and then counter...but who the hell plays bayonetta like that :?

Surely you see the difference between the two types of combat mechanics?

When you dodge/evade to be right... well it happen all the time... I'm attacking then the enemy try to hit me I hit R2 to dodge/evade and it enters in Witch Time... it is natural and you do without want to use Witch Time... I'm a guy that uses dodge/evade a lot in all games.

Both are easy but evade/dodge in Bayonetta is easy than a counter in Batman because it is easy to hit R2 to do that... there is no room to mistake and you didn't need timing at all... before you receive the hit push R2 = Witch Time.

DMC is far way more techinical and timing than Bayonetta... water to wine here... God of War III is more tecnical than Bayonetta.

About how I play the game... I go over the enyme all the time and when it will go to hit me I just dodge (aka enter in Witch Time)... I don't need strategy... just hit hit hit R2 hit hit R2 hit hit hit R2 hit hit hit hit hit hit R2.

And I play Bayonetta even without the witch time (you need any sword)... hold Triangle and wait all the enemies and when they are in your attack range just hit (90% of the enemies died with one hit in HARD... some needs two hits)... so you can do that: hold (2 seconds), Release + Hold again (2 seconds), Release + Hold again until kill any enemy without receive a hit (the enemy didn't have time to action at all)... use the Berserker amulet to make the enemies angry to go fast after you.

I will make a video just to show how easy it is .

@Bolded we will agree to disagree here. Nothing is easier than hitting a counter in batman or AC for me. Ive played through Bayonetta on Normal difficulty and it wasnt anywhere as close to being as easy as the combat of batman or AC. This is considering that I dont wait whole day to get hit in Bayonetta...the combat is different.



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Shinobi-san said:

@Bolded we will agree to disagree here. Nothing is easier than hitting a counter in batman or AC for me. Ive played through Bayonetta on Normal difficulty and it wasnt anywhere as close to being as easy as the combat of batman or AC. This is considering that I dont wait whole day to get hit in Bayonetta...the combat is different.

I have a lot of hard time to finish the Challenges in Batman (even more in the first game).... Bayonetta even the chanlenges are easy... I don't wait to get hit I alwasy go with full power over the enemies and push R2 when I'm close to receive a hit to dodge the emeny attack... that's reasult in Witch Time every time.

Both tatics that I listed is full and fast win for any enemy... no room for mistake.



See this is what bugs me about console wars on forums. You get too many threads like this where a group of people who had no interest in a product to begin with, post someone's particular negative opinion/experience, and use it to gloat and poke sticks at those who actually are interested.

Ya, journalists have made it clear that they are divided on this game. You posted two very negative pieces here. I could post two very positive ones as a response if I cared to.

As it stands, I personally couldn't care less for the journalist opinions. I play what interests me, regardless of whether it has a 7 or 10 from reviewers. That doesn't add to my enjoyment. For example, I thought Remember Me was a fantastic game, even though it got very mediocre scores from critics. Ryse could very well turn out to be a similar affair, and you know what....I'm totally cool with that.



ethomaz said:

J_Allard said:

Uh.. that is exactly what every gameplay video I have seen shows.

I don't what you saw but I played it and it is nowhere close to what you described.

Well idk if I should believe you or the rest of the world.



Angelus said:
See this is what bugs me about console wars on forums. You get too many threads like this where a group of people who had no interest in a product to begin with, post someone's particular negative opinion/experience, and use it to gloat and poke sticks at those who actually are interested.

Ya, journalists have made it clear that they are divided on this game. You posted two very negative pieces here. I could post two very positive ones as a response if I cared to.

As it stands, I personally couldn't care less for the journalist opinions. I play what interests me, regardless of whether it has a 7 or 10 from reviewers. That doesn't add to my enjoyment. For example, I thought Remember Me was a fantastic game, even though it got very mediocre scores from critics. Ryse could very well turn out to be a similar affair, and you know what....I'm totally cool with that.

Three actually.



FrancisNobleman said:
I think the blind loyalness of the microsoft fanbase is gonna be put to test at launch, with the inferior ports, and now one of the flagship exclusives sounds like a 6/10.

A little narrow sighted don't you think?  As if people couldn't possibly prefer a console because of the other things it offered out of the box, the controller, its exclusive games, etc.