take out wii sport and the s/w sales for the wii arent that much greater than the ps3 which has a pretty good attacth rate.

Oh ya i a going to be worst than Kwaad muhahahahaha

Ben Kenobi, there's never a "need" to go crazy. It's more a "want" type of thing.

To his credit, he's asking and answering his own questions, so he might have been a little crazy to begin with, and didn't really wasn't "going" anywhere.

If we're going to talk about 3rd parties, we should just make a chart that eliminates all 1st party titles, on all consoles. Honestly, I've been completely amazed at 360's attach rates. If I remember correctly, it's something like 6 games per console, which is incredible this early in the life cycle. It's crazy. Just like dpmnymkrprez. But considering how few major releases both Wii and PS3 have had (that chart includes about all of them), I don't think you can compare all three consoles yet. Honestly, I don't think even comparing the first six months of each console says all that much, software-wise.

 Be careful. Your angering the mob. Thei'll say your trolling and get you banned or something. XD

Seriously, This is funny, and one of the reasons I say what I say about me being curious about the Wii. The hardware is moving amazing numbers... The software is not, and what is moving is all nintendo and 2 3rd party games. Basically a total of 5 games on the Wii are selling decently. 

but if you don't take out wii sports, the wii has sold more software altough everybody said the wii is only for casuals and they will buy less games than the xboxers do. I guess you can look at it both ways.

and about wii sports: depending on what you want to see, you should in or exclude it. If you are interested in the number of games the wii buyers own and how much they play then you should include it. If you want to know about the money spent on games you should exclude it of course.

I did this as a joke, The bad thing is about reading posts and even text mesg on phones, sometimes people mistake things.thats why at the end I wrote ..lol   too bad we cant depict everything over tone of voice, so we can see if people are nbeing awnry or funny

 When trying to judge software sales, you can't include a bundled game. People get it whether they want it or not. There's no choice in the matter and people aren't spending a single extra dime for the game.

It's akin to Sony claiming that they've sold almost 3m peripherals already for the PS3 because they're including every controller that came bundled with the system. It doesn't make sense.

Well I'm just guessing, but I think most people that own a wii have spent a good amount of time playing wii sports, and possibly they would have bought another game if wii sports wouldn't have been included. this is why I would definitely include it to calculate the software attach ratio.

and please don't try to make up arguments by comparing something like a controller with a game. I think you need the controller to play the game, but you don't need wii sports to play another game. It would be different if somebody packed a second controller with its console.

why not count wiisports? You have too pay for the game.

My point is that Nintendo makes no money on the game and people may or may not be playing it. Therefore, it doesn't make any sense to include it in the software totals, which are usually used to indicate whether a company is profiting from a console after the initial purchase.

I didn't. It came with the console. I wanted the Wii, not necessarily Wii Sports (though I have enjoyed a fair amount of time with the game).