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Max King of the Wild said:
WiiBox3 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
impertinence said:

Max King of the Wild said:
 

Portal 2, Angry Birds, Walking Dead fail to meet challenge and interactivity. They must not be games

 

I don't know about Walking Dead, but the other two examples show that you do not understand the concept of what makes something a game or not. In general though, you are right that there are probably quite a few fringe cases where video games are not really games per say. I am not going to pretend that the border between games and art are absolute.

LOL... i just used your poor criteria. Portal 2 requires 3 buttons and if you die you just respawn in the same easy puzzle just to retry. Portal 2 was especially simplistic and easy. Angry birds you pull back on a sling shot at and angle and let go.


If you think that Angry Birds has no challange, you clearly haven't played much of it. It gets very challanging especially if you try to 3 star each level.

I played it on my phone and i played quite a bit. It reallly wasn't ever challenging. Though, I admit i didnt play every level. At least half though

You must be a better man than I at gaming. 3 staring some levels took me hours.



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Zappykins said:
I haven't seen anyone saying it's not a game. Just some reviews do not enjoy playing it.
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Beyond: Two Souls is a seriously flawed experiment in interactive storytelling. Is there a game to be found? This reviewer is still looking. [Oct 2013]


Max King of the Wild said:
osed125 said:
Max King of the Wild said:

LOL... i just used your poor criteria. Portal 2 requires 3 buttons and if you die you just respawn in the same easy puzzle just to retry. Portal 2 was especially simplistic and easy. Angry birds you pull back on a sling shot at and angle and let go.

Portal simplistic? Please I would like you to elaborate on this.



Really? Let me put it this way. I did 9 stages in co-op by myself to get still alive trophy in less than 20 minutes. thats with 4 portals. single player is a lot more simplistic. None of the stages are very complicated and can be beaten in about 7 hours. Soduku gets more challenging than Portal 2 ever was

Being easy (in your opinion) is very different from the game itself being simplistic in it's mechanics.



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WiiBox3 said:

You must be a better man than I at gaming. 3 staring some levels took me hours.

Uh 3 star is optional though and some of those levels you get 3 stars on luck alone. I dont consider getting lucky the same as challenging



dobby985 said:

I cant stand David Cage. He re-made Dragon's Lair now everyone thinks he's Jesus.

This video never gets old.

LOL that was awesome.

His description of what hardcore gamers think about games was almost insulting. I am going to rent Beyond tonight so he doesn't see a penny off of me ;)



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osed125 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
osed125 said:
Max King of the Wild said:

LOL... i just used your poor criteria. Portal 2 requires 3 buttons and if you die you just respawn in the same easy puzzle just to retry. Portal 2 was especially simplistic and easy. Angry birds you pull back on a sling shot at and angle and let go.

Portal simplistic? Please I would like you to elaborate on this.



Really? Let me put it this way. I did 9 stages in co-op by myself to get still alive trophy in less than 20 minutes. thats with 4 portals. single player is a lot more simplistic. None of the stages are very complicated and can be beaten in about 7 hours. Soduku gets more challenging than Portal 2 ever was

Being easy (in your opinion) is very different from the game itself being simplistic in it's mechanics.

You hit two buttons and get from point a to point b... more elements get thrown in to make the difficulty higher... but it never gets complicated (aka simple) and all the puzzels are easy to solve. its simplistic.



Zappykins said:
I haven't seen anyone saying it's not a game. Just some reviews do not enjoy playing it.

Do you live under a rock?

If you can find any multi page Beyond thread on this site that doesn't have at least one person bashing its lack of gameyness, I'll give you a cookie.



J_Allard said:
dobby985 said:

I cant stand David Cage. He re-made Dragon's Lair now everyone thinks he's Jesus.

This video never gets old.

LOL that was awesome.

His description of what hardcore gamers think about games was almost insulting. I am going to rent Beyond tonight so he doesn't see a penny off of me ;)



Screw that buy the game used than return it to gamestop within 7 days so the only one earning a penny off you is the gas station.

dobby985 said:

I cant stand David Cage. He re-made Dragon's Lair now everyone thinks he's Jesus.

This video never gets old.

LOL that was horrible.

People actually believe this is what's up with Cage? That's kinda sad.



Max King of the Wild said:
osed125 said:

Being easy (in your opinion) is very different from the game itself being simplistic in it's mechanics.

You hit two buttons and get from point a to point b... more elements get thrown in to make the difficulty higher... but it never gets complicated (aka simple) and all the puzzels are easy to solve. its simplistic.

You have various ways to do a puzzle in Portal, no puzzle is the same, it just uses different mechanics (make portals, use cubes, use gels to your advantage, gravity fields, etc). A simplistic game is something like Sudoku, every game is solved the same way, the idea behind solving a Sudoku will always be the same, the only difference is the way the numbers are arranged. So again, a game being easy for you doesn't mean the game is simplistic, and if you find Sudoku hard, that doesn't mean the game is complex.



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