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-CraZed- on 04 October 2013
Wright said:

petroleo said:

but for MS and his monopolistic ways


How could they did "monopolistic" things since you had alternatives if you didn't want the Xbox One? I'm sorry, this does not compute. If you didn't like it, don't rant about it. Go buy something else.

I think he means anti-consumer...



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WiiBox3 on 04 October 2013
iamdeath said:
Dark_Feanor said:
iamdeath said:
Dark_Feanor said:
The Fury said:
Dark_Feanor said:
Still, no one from Sony saying the PS4 is 50% more powerfull than any other rival.

But I have to agree that the message Sony is puting out is winning the mindshare of consumers. People blindly belive, with no prove what so ever, the tale of a "much more powerfull and 100% dedicated to games hardware" console.

To me this is a much more "evil" PR aprouch than Microsoft being honest with their policies.

Wow...talk about reading too much into it. "we believe this is the most powerful console", "We want consumers to look at how much fun it is to use this system". This is 'evil' PR? Because of what, they are lying that they would like people to have fun and lying that they 'believe' it is the most powerful console?

I guess it would be less honest, when in comparison, the competition started off by being too honest by calling us all theives.

I see no problem they saying it is "the most powerfull console ever", or having fun with it. 

"Most powerfull" is not the same as "Much more powerfull". My point is that no one that is really inside the business ever said : "The PS4 is 50% more pooerfull than any other console in the market. Games on the PS4 will have 50% more resolution and 50% more FPS".

I´m not even saying that Sony should not do this kind of PR. I just expect people to put a grain of salt when a Sony PR speaks, the same way you guys put when is Microsoft (even when its a tech guy trying to explain some of his work).

That´s it.

PS: Power and Fun are not exactly correlated. Just see the Wii, DS, 3DS or most of successefull smartphone games.

LOL, People still getting upset over a company using positive PR to try and make a case for their product? Some of you need to get outside more.

@dark-feanor, MS has been vastly worse, and even spreading mis-information that was quickly rebutted..there is a major difference. You have a laughable double standard with reagrds to MS and Sony PR.

I have a lot of fun when people simply invent things that I wrote. 

Man, where in my text do I say MS PR is good (in the sence that it sells the product idea)?

Microsoft understimate the neogafism hate that have been building since the inception of Kinect. Game jornalism had to contemplate their viewers, so for months after the lack luster PS4 anounce (and a little before), sites and foruns where flowded with missleading "leaks" of  aways online, no used no borrowing games, chip failure rate, games being delayed... and so on. While Sony was quiet.

And Microsoft let Sony ride the good will hype train and there was almost nothing they could do at May reveal or E3 to appease the game communitie. Even Sony´s E3 that for any preveous year standard would be considered mediocre was a fenomenon for the its last 5 minuties (where they just said that everething would be the same that is today).

Then Microsoft made the 180, and so the only thing that realy put PS4 and XOne apart is the supposed power of each one. 

Ok, let´s see what missleading concepts you make up with my words.

?? Everything you said is Biased opinion and had nothing to do with what I posted about your double standard when Ms does some truly terrible Pr (They have), and sony has for the most part been consistent level headed, humble. Ms has even been called out for trying to spin the power numbers. Ms sounds like crooked politicians everytime they speak. Thus all the internet hate the last few months. No one likes being lied to or being treated like an idiot.

There is a lot more diff then jus power. Sony's first party > Microsofts. Sony has less paywall's behind their online infrastructure.


To be honest, both Microsoft and Sony have been up and down with their PR over the years. But the main thing to remember is that PR seems to screw up all over the tech industry with how they address the public. I mean look at Google saying they don't give a crap about keeping your personal information secret. The Samsung Indian blogger Mob!lers incident. Apple's how to hold your phone so the antena works issue, because why would you hold your phone anyother way or be left handed. You get my point.

I think it's best not to judge tech companies for their PR mistakes, especially when it's engineers speaking about their product that they have been working hard on for year. And remember the real evil companies are the Banks, Investment firms and the Oil companies and let's just throw in Vince with the slap chop for good measure. ;)



Wright on 04 October 2013
-CraZed- said:
Wright said:

petroleo said:

but for MS and his monopolistic ways


How could they did "monopolistic" things since you had alternatives if you didn't want the Xbox One? I'm sorry, this does not compute. If you didn't like it, don't rant about it. Go buy something else.

I think he means anti-consumer...


Anti-consumer? Did they forced you to buy it?



WiiBox3 on 04 October 2013
-CraZed- said:
Wright said:

petroleo said:

but for MS and his monopolistic ways


How could they did "monopolistic" things since you had alternatives if you didn't want the Xbox One? I'm sorry, this does not compute. If you didn't like it, don't rant about it. Go buy something else.

I think he means anti-consumer...

"anti-consumer" is also an incorrect way to describe it. "anti-consumer" is trying to prevent people from buying things at all. MS as well as every other company in the world that sells stuff is pro-consumer. They want you to buy their stuff and a lot of it.

What you are looking to say is they are against used game resale. Or more acurrately against easy resale of used games, since they were going to have ways for you to sell your used game, it just wasn't going to be as easy as current used game resale.

TL DR Microsoft is anything but "anti-consumer". They want you to buy lots of their Sh*t, which is pro-consumer.



LilChicken22 on 04 October 2013

Sony and Microsoft comparing dicksizes again... nothing unusual here.



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WiiBox3 on 04 October 2013
LilChicken22 said:
Sony and Microsoft comparing dicksizes again... nothing unusual here.


Ha! You comment reminded me of the Chinpokomon episode of South Park.Link

Part 2



attaboy on 04 October 2013
petroleo said:
Sony has never gave his back on consumers in fact I think not a single comercial company on their sane mind would want to do that, consumers are their main income, is not rocket science you know :P, but for MS and his monopolistic ways did that they went and put their own rules, rules or features consumers never asked for and not only that, they have no shame , for example that mattrick guy said, "don't have online so then go and buy a 360 that's an offline device ", seriously ?.

and there's the 180 thing, do you guys believe at MS they will actually stay true to its words ? I definitely not.


Sony told my dad to get a second job to buy me a PS3.  He did and was killed in a freak gorilla attack at work.  His last words were "Son, enjoy the PS3.  Uncharted is going to be awesome."

 

And he was right.  Uncharted was awesome.  R.I.P., dad.



-CraZed- on 04 October 2013
WiiBox3 said:
-CraZed- said:
Wright said:

petroleo said:

but for MS and his monopolistic ways


How could they did "monopolistic" things since you had alternatives if you didn't want the Xbox One? I'm sorry, this does not compute. If you didn't like it, don't rant about it. Go buy something else.

I think he means anti-consumer...

"anti-consumer" is also an incorrect way to describe it. "anti-consumer" is trying to prevent people from buying things at all. MS as well as every other company in the world that sells stuff is pro-consumer. They want you to buy their stuff and a lot of it.

What you are looking to say is they are against used game resale. Or more acurrately against easy resale of used games, since they were going to have ways for you to sell your used game, it just wasn't going to be as easy as current used game resale.

TL DR Microsoft is anything but "anti-consumer". They want you to buy lots of their Sh*t, which is pro-consumer.

The term anti-consumer is also used to describe the practice of limiting consumer choice and options. The original MS policies for the XB1 were most certainly meant to limit consumer choice and control over the products they consumed (games in this case) and protect profit margins for the developers etc. and take away the ability for CONSUMERS to resell their purchased games. MS was looking to limit consumer activity which is indeed 'anti-consumer.'

Luckily they have since changed their stance and good for them and good for consumers. But 'anti-consumer' is very apt for the past Xb1 policies.




UnknownFact on 04 October 2013

While all of you play on your pretty PS4s I'll be getting me FF X/X2 bundle for PS3 and be happy with it.



iamdeath on 04 October 2013
UnknownFact said:
While all of you play on your pretty PS4s I'll be getting me FF X/X2 bundle for PS3 and be happy with it.


Cool story bro..... I will have both, best of both worlds...The 2 are not mutually exclusive.