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CDiablo said:
Im shocked Sony would assume that in an unstable economy like this people have $500(system/game/psn/tax) to blow on a game console. Much less have $500 to blow on 1st gen hardware of a console with almost no games and the big games they have have similar experiences on current console(KZ,Infamous, multigen-plats). Shit if Sony sells 5 million by March, Id say XBOX sells 3 Million by then if people are that loose with their cash. I dont See X1 selling more than 1.5 by then or Sony more than 2.5.

PS3 did more than 2.5m at $600... PS4 is $400.



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PigPen said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


So I guess brand power and titles didn't help Sony eventually outsell Microsoft in seventh year sales (from launch to the present opposed to Microsofts launch to one year ago) but also in overall sales. 

Brand power and titles helped Sony loyalist.  Blu-ray winning out HD DVD, and now the only HD to go to.  Microsoft was forced to drop their HD.  The most powerful console (by specs on paper) with a Blu-ray player ($400 to $500 if not mustaken) made Sony a steal.  Even then after 7 to 8 years, PS3 just beat the Xbox360 barely. 

Definitely, but if you look at the stats and Sony would've launched with Microsoft, they had to catch up by like eight million consoles, so in fact if Sony had launched with Microsoft thats almost the amount they would be ahead by. Sony is launching with Microsoft this generation, which means not only does Microsoft not have the market 100% to themselves but they have to prove their value over a Sony brand console in America with a higher price at launch. Sonys clear advantages in the world are the exact reason why Microsoft is paying third party billions to make their console look better. Sony doesn't need to win a perception war with Microsoft, Microsoft needs that to beat Sony.



tres said:
Rafux said:
Its in the bank, they are doing everything right.

lol its more microsoft did everything wrong.  the pandering part isnt something thats actually a right unless people need coddling. its so easy to hate microsoft and get sucked into sonys bs 

sony-we never planned on drm but people ignore a freakin patent that prove otherwise

http://www.ibtimes.com/sony-files-patent-curb-access-used-video-games-1005876

microsoft was their own enemy

I agree.

 

The PS4 hype that began in February was only because of MS and their blunders during their May reveal.



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CDiablo said:
Im shocked Sony would assume that in an unstable economy like this people have $500(system/game/psn/tax) to blow on a game console. Much less have $500 to blow on 1st gen hardware of a console with almost no games and the big games they have have similar experiences on current console(KZ,Infamous, multigen-plats). Shit if Sony sells 5 million by March, Id say XBOX sells 3 Million by then if people are that loose with their cash. I dont See X1 selling more than 1.5 by then or Sony more than 2.5.

There is a recession on there is no doubt, and many younger people are affected, so that will have an impact... but the big thing here is that new consoles happened so long ago, so there is a lot of pent up demand. They should be able to do 2 million easily by the end of the year.. if the 1 million pre-orders is anywhere near correct.

If Sony can bring out a GTAV and a Last of Us next gen versions by May next year... I can just see it doing amazingly well next year. Thats before we take into account other things/games/Infamous etc.



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Euphoria14 said:
tres said:
Rafux said:
Its in the bank, they are doing everything right.

lol its more microsoft did everything wrong.  the pandering part isnt something thats actually a right unless people need coddling. its so easy to hate microsoft and get sucked into sonys bs 

sony-we never planned on drm but people ignore a freakin patent that prove otherwise

http://www.ibtimes.com/sony-files-patent-curb-access-used-video-games-1005876

microsoft was their own enemy

I agree.

 

The PS4 hype that began in February was only because of MS and their blunders during their May reveal.

?? garbage, Sony doing everything right and the price were why. MS screwing up was icing on the cake. If Sony did a ps3 launhc it would haev been a diff story. amazing, how people try to not give sony any credit. total BS.

 

How can hype in february be because of what happened 3 months later? People were hyped about Ps4 day 1 before we even knew about MS Policies or the X1. Your post doesn't even make sense.



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Who cares if PS4 doesn't outsell Wii U by December 31st? It'll outsell it a few months after that anyways....not a big deal.



iamdeath said:
CDiablo said:
Im shocked Sony would assume that in an unstable economy like this people have $500(system/game/psn/tax) to blow on a game console. Much less have $500 to blow on 1st gen hardware of a console with almost no games and the big games they have have similar experiences on current console(KZ,Infamous, multigen-plats). Shit if Sony sells 5 million by March, Id say XBOX sells 3 Million by then if people are that loose with their cash. I dont See X1 selling more than 1.5 by then or Sony more than 2.5.


ROFL... Ps4 will do  way mroe the 2.5 by march. will do that beforre 2014.


Care to elaborate with any reason. Mine is price and the fact that there is 2 retail games at launch that are new series that cannot be experienced anywhere else. Xbox has 1(possibly 2 if KI 3 is retail....and fighters arent that big of a genre). Its a hard sell to the masses. Even the hardcore gamers I know are waiting a while for the system, I see nothing of interest in either system except the Division(which I will likely get on PC). Anectodal evidence, but so is internet hype. PS3 is still releasing top tier exclusives and both systems are still getting big releases. I dont care about PS4 having a million preorders, Wii U had the same, and its a bomb ATM.



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Zero999 said:
yo_john117 said:
5 million sold by March 2014 seems pretty reasonable to me. About 3 - 3.25 million up until the first week of January and then 2 - 1.75 sold during January - March.

bolded: selling more than wii without even counting japan sounds a little too impossible.


Wii was heavily supply constrained in 2006 and 2007. Nintendo didn't expect it to be nearly as successful as it was before launch.



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CDiablo said:
iamdeath said:
CDiablo said:
Im shocked Sony would assume that in an unstable economy like this people have $500(system/game/psn/tax) to blow on a game console. Much less have $500 to blow on 1st gen hardware of a console with almost no games and the big games they have have similar experiences on current console(KZ,Infamous, multigen-plats). Shit if Sony sells 5 million by March, Id say XBOX sells 3 Million by then if people are that loose with their cash. I dont See X1 selling more than 1.5 by then or Sony more than 2.5.


ROFL... Ps4 will do  way mroe the 2.5 by march. will do that beforre 2014.


Care to elaborate with any reason. Mine is price and the fact that there is 2 retail games at launch that are new series that cannot be experienced anywhere else. Xbox has 1(possibly 2 if KI 3 is retail....and fighters arent that big of a genre). Its a hard sell to the masses. Even the hardcore gamers I know are waiting a while for the system, I see nothing of interest in either system except the Division(which I will likely get on PC). Anectodal evidence, but so is internet hype. PS3 is still releasing top tier exclusives and both systems are still getting big releases. I dont care about PS4 having a million preorders, Wii U had the same, and its a bomb ATM.

Wii-u never had CLOSE to 1 million pre-orders, sony is well above 1, and will get over 2 million in pre-orders alone..............No one in the industry or anywhere is predicting that low a number. The wii-u sold 400,000 it's first wekk, never had close to that many pre-orders............Facts help.

 

There are also a lot mroe then 2 retail games for ps4. madden, BF4, watch dogs, Drive club, Knack, Killzone.....to name a few. Infamous early 2014. Killer instinct, is hardly a system seller

 

Least top tier exclusvies? who said? How do you know? You played them? Dead rising is hardly a big franchise, and most poeople only need 1 or 2 games at launch.

 

Again the only evidence is rpre-ordes, and the Ps4 is lining up the the biggest console launch..ever. You put way too much stock into launch titles...p[eople dont buy consoles just fro launch games that are hit or miss. It is sustained software over years that sells systems. Laucnh titles will be forgotten in a month,.



CDiablo said:

Care to elaborate with any reason. Mine is price and the fact that there is 2 retail games at launch that are new series that cannot be experienced anywhere else. Xbox has 1(possibly 2 if KI 3 is retail....and fighters arent that big of a genre). Its a hard sell to the masses. Even the hardcore gamers I know are waiting a while for the system, I see nothing of interest in either system except the Division(which I will likely get on PC). Anectodal evidence, but so is internet hype. PS3 is still releasing top tier exclusives and both systems are still getting big releases. I dont care about PS4 having a million preorders, Wii U had the same, and its a bomb ATM.

Reason... huh... even with 5 million news Retail is expecting shortages.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/ps4-could-face-four-months-of-shortages/0121321