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Scoobes on 17 September 2013
Galaki said:
Probably paving the way for phone inside pad/computer where you can dock your phone in your tablet/computer where the extra processing power is needed.

Why would you need a 64-bit processor for that?




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Galaki on 17 September 2013
Scoobes said:
Galaki said:
Probably paving the way for phone inside pad/computer where you can dock your phone in your tablet/computer where the extra processing power is needed.

Why would you need a 64-bit processor for that?

Home computers now comes with 16GB RAM on average?



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Scoobes on 18 September 2013
Galaki said:
Scoobes said:
Galaki said:
Probably paving the way for phone inside pad/computer where you can dock your phone in your tablet/computer where the extra processing power is needed.

Why would you need a 64-bit processor for that?

Home computers now comes with 16GB RAM on average?

Not sure I get your idea. So you'd dock your phone to your tablet /PC to use the phone chip? Why not just use the computers own, more powerful chip?




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Galaki on 18 September 2013
Scoobes said:
Galaki said:
Scoobes said:
Galaki said:
Probably paving the way for phone inside pad/computer where you can dock your phone in your tablet/computer where the extra processing power is needed.

Why would you need a 64-bit processor for that?

Home computers now comes with 16GB RAM on average?

Not sure I get your idea. So you'd dock your phone to your tablet /PC to use the phone chip? Why not just use the computers own, more powerful chip?

Because your computer then could sync up with your phone.



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famousringo on 19 September 2013
wick said:
BloodyRain said:
Seriously, I get the A7, but what the hell does a 64bit do on mobiles?


Absolutely nothing without extra RAM.

You need 4 GB of RAM to take advantage of a 64bit system.

Seeing as no mobile phone has 4GB of RAM it's largely a marketing ploy.

Edit: Here's a link for you http://www.citeworld.com/development/22407/apple-iphone-64bit


So, for everybody who said 64-bit is just a marketing ploy:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/4

Same processor running the same benchmarks under 32-bit and 64-bit instruction set.

Apple A7 - AArch64 vs. AArch32 Performance Comparison
  32-bit A32 64-bit A64 % Advantage
AES 91.5 MB/s 846.2 MB/s 825%
AES MT 180.2 MB/s 1640.0 MB/s 810%
Twofish 59.9 MB/s 55.6 MB/s -8%
Twofish MT 119.1 MB/s 110.2 MB/s -8%
SHA1 138.0 MB/s 477.3 MB/s 245%
SHA1 MT 275.7 MB/s 948.9 MB/s 244%
SHA2 86.1 MB/s 102.2 MB/s 18%
SHA2 MT 171.3 MB/s 203.7 MB/s 18%
BZip2 Compress 4.36 MB/s 4.52 MB/s 3%
BZip2 Compress MT 8.57 MB/s 8.86 MB/s 3%
BZip2 Decompress 5.94 MB/s 7.56 MB/s 27%
BZip2 Decompress MT 11.7 MB/s 15.0 MB/s 28%
JPEG Compress 15.5 MPixels/s 16.8 MPixels/s 8%
JPEG Compress MT 30.8 MPixels/s 33.3 MPixels/s 8%
JPEG Decompress 36.0 MPixels/s 40.3 MPixels/s 11%
JPEG Decompress MT 71.3 MPixels/s 78.1 MPixels/s 9%
PNG Compress 0.84 MPixels/s 1.14 MPixels/s 35%
PNG Compress MT 1.67 MPixels/s 2.26 MPixels/s 35%
PNG Decompress 13.9 MPixels/s 15.2 MPixels/s 9%
PNG Decompress MT 27.4 MPixels/s 29.8 MPixels/s 8%
Sobel 59.3 MPixels/s 58.0 MPixels/s -3%
Sobel MT 116.6 MPixels/s 114.6 MPixels/s -2%
Lua 1.25 MB/s 1.33 MB/s 6%
Lua MT 2.47 MB/s 2.49 MB/s 0%
Dijkstra 5.35 MPairs/s 4.05 MPairs/s -25%
Dijkstra MT 9.67 MPairs/s 7.26 MPairs/s -25%

 

Apple A7 - AArch64 vs. AArch32 Performance Comparison
  32-bit A32 64-bit A64 % Advantage
BlackScholes 4.73 MNodes/s 5.92 MNodes/s 25%
BlackScholes MT 9.57 MNodes/s 12.0 MNodes/s 25%
Mandelbrot 930.2 MFLOPS 929.9 MFLOPS 0%
Mandelbrot 1840 MFLOPS 1850 MFLOPS 0%
Sharpen Filter 805.1 MFLOPS 857 MFLOPS 6%
Sharpen Filter MT 1610 MFLOPS 1710 MFLOPS 6%
Blur Filter 1.08 GFLOPS 1.26 GFLOPS 16%
Blur Filter MT 2.15 GFLOPS 2.47 GFLOPS 14%
SGEMM 3.09 GFLOPS 3.34 GFLOPS 8%
SGEMM MT 6.08 GFLOPS 6.56 GFLOPS 7%
DGEMM 0.56 GFLOPS 1.66 GFLOPS 195%
DGEMM MT 1.11 GFLOPS 3.24 GFLOPS 191%
SFFT 0.72 GFLOPS 1.59 GFLOPS 119%
SFFT MT 1.44 GFLOPS 3.17 GFLOPS 120%
DFFT 1.41 GFLOPS 1.47 GFLOPS 4%
DFFT MT 2.78 GFLOPS 2.91 GFLOPS 4%
N-Body 460.8 KPairs/s 582.6 KPairs/s 26%
N-Body MT 917.6 KPairs/s 1160.0 KPairs/s 26%
Ray Trace 1.52 MPixels/s 2.31 MPixels/s 51%
Ray Trace MT 3.04 MPixels/s 4.64 MPixels/s 52%

Also, NiKKoM, you were absolutely right about the A7 being a security monster. Not just the way it murders AES or the fingerprint scanning, the whole A7 architecture is built like Fort Knox:

http://www.quora.com/Apple-Secure-Enclave/What-is-Apple’s-new-Secure-Enclave-and-why-is-it-important



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DavidWilliamApp on 20 September 2013

Samsung is only proceeding with its ‘copy’ business and I seriously do not understand how it dares show-off its lack of imagination and innovation. Why not offer a 70-bit processor instead and be better than the new iPhones? I seriously do not get such kind of strategy! Android devices are just a complete turn-off to me and the market leaders will always be the iOS devices!