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teigaga on 09 September 2013
Shinobi-san said:
CGI-Quality said:
teigaga said:
Looks fun, not the sprawling RPG I was hoping for but still nice... Graphics took a fair hit from the demo.

That demo was never supposed to be an actual representation of the final product. We didn't saw it running, in real-time, on PS4. This is what they should have shown from the beginning, which is still very good, very next gen.


I actually thought parts of this live gameplay demo looked quite similar to what was shown at the PS event in Feb, especially the part with the dragon from multiple angles...

Other than that i could see it wasnt as spectacular or crisp...but still dam impressive.

The particle effects looked like they were ripped straight from their current gen frameworks engine. I guess because this build is early  haven't managed to get it running yet, hopefully this is the case. Its funny because this demo is literally showing what we saw today vs what was shown at the playstation reveal. They're very far from their target. 







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Shinobi-san on 09 September 2013
CGI-Quality said:
Shinobi-san said:
CGI-Quality said:
teigaga said:
Looks fun, not the sprawling RPG I was hoping for but still nice... Graphics took a fair hit from the demo.

That demo was never supposed to be an actual representation of the final product. We didn't saw it running, in real-time, on PS4. This is what they should have shown from the beginning, which is still very good, very next gen.


I actually thought parts of this live gameplay demo looked quite similar to what was shown at the PS event in Feb, especially the part with the dragon from multiple angles...

Other than that i could see it wasnt as spectacular or crisp...but still dam impressive.

It would be crazy if they proved me wrong, but seriously, that Feb stuff looked just too damn good!

Yeah feb stuff looked miles ahead of anything we've seen on the next gen consoles. But it looked very controlled, very limited in scope, camera angles were also done in a certain way to show off stuff etc.

Seemed in engine though...although saying footage is in engine these days doesnt really mean much. I got quite tired of hearing devs saying footage is engine and then when playing the actual game...IQ falls far short. Its not like they lying though but i still feel its misleading.



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Shinobi-san on 09 September 2013
teigaga said:
Shinobi-san said:
CGI-Quality said:
teigaga said:
Looks fun, not the sprawling RPG I was hoping for but still nice... Graphics took a fair hit from the demo.

That demo was never supposed to be an actual representation of the final product. We didn't saw it running, in real-time, on PS4. This is what they should have shown from the beginning, which is still very good, very next gen.


I actually thought parts of this live gameplay demo looked quite similar to what was shown at the PS event in Feb, especially the part with the dragon from multiple angles...

Other than that i could see it wasnt as spectacular or crisp...but still dam impressive.

The particle effects looked like they were ripped straight from their current gen frameworks engine. I guess because this build is early  haven't managed to get it running yet, hopefully this is the case. Its funny because this demo is literally showing what we saw today vs what was shown at the playstation reveal. They're very far from their target. 

Didnt seem too far off for me to be honest. Especially the like for like scene. Keep in mind that this is off screen footage.

I dont think they will quite reach that level of fidelity in open gameplay but to say its far off and parts of it look current gen is overly harsh and way off imo.



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Shinobi-san on 09 September 2013
CGI-Quality said:
teigaga said:

I knew the gameplay wasn't real, but I thought that was the games engine running in real time on the ps4 with scripted animation and camera etc.

It was using engine assets (a sort of Uncharted-like approach, if you will). But if that were true gameplay, it would have trounced even the best looking PC games, and that just wasn't going to happen. Capcom tried to pass that as real-time, but people who know better and have an eye for these things couldn't take it seriously.

That said, what we saw last night looked exceptional, but we're probably a gen behind the quality of that original footage.

Lets see what Naughty dog does with Uncharted 6 before we say stuff like that



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teigaga on 09 September 2013
Shinobi-san said:
teigaga said:
Shinobi-san said:
CGI-Quality said:
teigaga said:
Looks fun, not the sprawling RPG I was hoping for but still nice... Graphics took a fair hit from the demo.

That demo was never supposed to be an actual representation of the final product. We didn't saw it running, in real-time, on PS4. This is what they should have shown from the beginning, which is still very good, very next gen.


I actually thought parts of this live gameplay demo looked quite similar to what was shown at the PS event in Feb, especially the part with the dragon from multiple angles...

Other than that i could see it wasnt as spectacular or crisp...but still dam impressive.

The particle effects looked like they were ripped straight from their current gen frameworks engine. I guess because this build is early  haven't managed to get it running yet, hopefully this is the case. Its funny because this demo is literally showing what we saw today vs what was shown at the playstation reveal. They're very far from their target. 

Didnt seem too far off for me to be honest. Especially the like for like scene. Keep in mind that this is off screen footage.

I dont think they will quite reach that level of fidelity in open gameplay but to say its far off and parts of it look current gen is overly harsh and way off imo.


Not the graphics as a whole, just the flame effects. It looks like their fluid simulation system was completely omitted in todays build and they were just using a higher res version of the assets they would use in a current gen title. MTFramework always had great explosions and fire effects so its not much of an insult ;)


 



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Shinobi-san on 09 September 2013
teigaga said:
Shinobi-san said:

Didnt seem too far off for me to be honest. Especially the like for like scene. Keep in mind that this is off screen footage.

I dont think they will quite reach that level of fidelity in open gameplay but to say its far off and parts of it look current gen is overly harsh and way off imo.


Not the graphics as a whole, just the flame effects. It looks like their fluid simulation system was completely omitted in todays build and they were just using a higher res version of the assets they would use in a current gen title. MTFramework always had great explosions and fire effects so its not much of an insult ;)

I actually never liked MTFramework explosions and fire effects. From Resident Evil 5 to Lost Planet the explosions and fire effects all look exactly the same.

Its a bit weird because Capcom always spoke about it.

Thats why i was quite surprised by the fire effects shown in the initial footage.



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FatedReality on 09 September 2013

Looks like a brighter Demon Souls, still looks absoulutly awesome though.



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Jdevil3 on 09 September 2013

If this helps...



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kitler53 on 09 September 2013
CGI-Quality said:
walsufnir said:
kitler53 said:
between this and dead rising 3 i think playstation fans got the far better exclusive.


Based on what?! Really, what did you actually see in the videos so far? Console wars and their laws...

The two bolded words are key. Seems you take issue with opinions a lot, lately, especially if they favor Sony. ;)

thanks for sticking up for me.  *hugs*

 

CGI-Quality said:
kitler53 said:
between this and dead rising 3 i think playstation fans got the far better exclusive.

I keep seeing/hearing this. What's so wrong with DR3? Maybe I'm being biased since I cherish that series, but more and more are saying it looks "meh", to a degree, and I'm trying to understand why.

it's not that DR3 is wrong it's that DD looks epic!!  ..and it's no secret that i'm a huuuge demon's/dark souls fan.



Jdevil3 on 09 September 2013

Shown now (Off screen + Compression arctifacts):

http://abload.de/img/4ttttttlqswm.gif



Shown on reveal (Direct feed downsized HD footage):

http://i.minus.com/ibjxCz37mFXzrX.gif



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