Yeah sure. Anyway, my original comment was to captain_tom, he's implying that people will buy a console for it's graphics, every person with logic knows this is wrong. Graphics are a selling point for games, not the hardware, this has been proven time and time again. Although captain_tom apparently doesn't get it.

This is what annoys me about Reggie and perhaps Nintendo as well (and some fans to boot). At E3 Reggie was basically ticking off boxes like "Core third party games" "Online" "HD Graphics" ect and whilst yes Nintendo have made efforts in all those areas (and with third parties it's not all their fault) they've put little to no effort into it and expected the core to gobble it up, it was just insulting listening to Reggie making out the WiiU resembled anything of a core gaming console and completely signifies how Nintendo do not get what core gamers loved about PS360.

I don't like Reggie, but what did you expected him to say all this time? He has to sell the console. It's the same as MS trying to make DRM good, or Sony trying to make the Vita more appealing. 

PR is PR, and should never been taking seriously in most cases.

I realise Nintendo hasn't made his job easy given WiiU has no clear demo grpahic other than Nintendo fans right now, but if anything they'd be better off trying to make it a casual hit. PR or not that's the vibe coming from Nintendo, they don't value or get the core and what it takes to appeal to them.

My point was that that attitude then trickles down and people start believing all Sony and MS machines have to offer is prettier graphics and that it's meaningless.

My argument was very clear: pretty graphics don't mean anything if good games aren't there. Never said or implied that Sony or MS only offer prettier graphics. 

Also, just out of curiosity, what's your definition of "core" gamer?

I didn't say you did personally, I'm just off shooting the convo a bit, I've certainly heard others think it's fact.

There are many different definitions of "core gamer" but what I meant by that is yuor typical gamer who is on PS360 will not be impressed with WiiU hardware, online (in nearly all aspects) and third party offerings, simply because they don't stack up against the competition. Reggie was definitely hinting at the COD crowd around E3, the type that wouldn't go near a WiiU.

Every Playstation home console has had tons of content, arguably the best overall library every generation (though this past gen with the 360 is debatable) since the PS1 days.

PS4 isn't going to be any different really, it's going to get the same support from every third party and it's going to have the Naughty Dog, Sony Santa Monica, Digital Polypony, etc. stuff too obviously.

The fact that is has the best chipset of the three consoles this gen at a relatively reasonable price is just icing on the cake.

As for Nintendo's stock I'd be tempted to buy some, but I just have no faith in their leadership. Something is very, very rotten in their board of directors IMO to have made this many bad decisions in a 3 year span ... I just wouldn't be comfortable investing in them.