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I am tired of threads like this where it starts out very believable.then all of a sudden. This happens"There are so many wii's available at store A in a country we can not confirm, and in that same country there are no PS3's because they are selling so fast!!! Funny the game charts don't show this phenomenal increase in PS3's?? This Usually comes from a person who loves the PS3 and usually only owns 1, or they own 2 or all 3 next gens. I own a PS3/Wii, Guess what , the Wii is hard to find, the same PS3 has been sitting on the shelf for literaly months. This store is Feed meyer, anyone who does not believe me, I will give you the number to Fred Meyer Electronics here locally!! Human nature is based on defending what they believe/like/love even if it is untruths! Sorry guys just being honest, This is where the die hard fans jump in.....GO!



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kn said:
Bodhesatva said:
kn said:
Here's a question for the U.S. types: Why won't EB/Gamestop take preorders for Wiis? It seems silly that they would turn away a sale but they won't do it. For all they know the buyer could find one at Toys R Us, Wal Mart, Target, Best Buy, etc. and they will lose no only the sale of the console, but any accessories and games to go with it. At this point taking preorders would allow them to capture an otherwise possibly lost customer...

We did take pre orders about 4 months ago. The word got out fast: we had a queue of 200 people within four days. That was enough to keep us sold out for almost two months. Let's imagine we kept that queue open for, say, three more weeks. Based on that average, we'd have a queue of 1000 people. See the problem?


Were your pre-orders pay full price in advance? I.e. pay fully for the system plus tax or was it a $20 dollar deposit or just put your name on a list? Call me nuts but I can't imagine that many people paying 100 percent up front but maybe I'm wrong.


Absolutely, they were not. They were, in fact, paying 0. Are you suggesting that we take the numbers of thousands of people, only to have 50 percent (or more) tell us they'd already found a Wii, but thanks for calling anyway? I want to stress that this would take days of labor and hundreds if not thousands of dollars from my store. This isn't a joke: calling 4000+ people would take 4000+ minutes, which is 65 hours+ of labor. That's 600 dollars+ of man hours alone, not to mention any other possible costs (what if the people don't pick up the phone? What if they agree to come in but don't? What if people get angry at us and vent?). More likely, this would cost my store over a thousand dollars to keep track of. Why would we do this, if we're absolutely sure the systems would sell out anyway? 



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Bodhesatva said:
kn said:
Bodhesatva said:
kn said:
Here's a question for the U.S. types: Why won't EB/Gamestop take preorders for Wiis? It seems silly that they would turn away a sale but they won't do it. For all they know the buyer could find one at Toys R Us, Wal Mart, Target, Best Buy, etc. and they will lose no only the sale of the console, but any accessories and games to go with it. At this point taking preorders would allow them to capture an otherwise possibly lost customer...

We did take pre orders about 4 months ago. The word got out fast: we had a queue of 200 people within four days. That was enough to keep us sold out for almost two months. Let's imagine we kept that queue open for, say, three more weeks. Based on that average, we'd have a queue of 1000 people. See the problem?


Were your pre-orders pay full price in advance? I.e. pay fully for the system plus tax or was it a $20 dollar deposit or just put your name on a list? Call me nuts but I can't imagine that many people paying 100 percent up front but maybe I'm wrong.


Absolutely, they were not. They were, in fact, paying 0. Are you suggesting that we take the numbers of thousands of people, only to have 50 percent (or more) tell us they'd already found a Wii, but thanks for calling anyway? I want to stress that this would take days of labor and hundreds if not thousands of dollars from my store. This isn't a joke: calling 4000+ people would take 4000+ minutes, which is 65 hours+ of labor. That's 600 dollars+ of man hours alone, not to mention any other possible costs (what if the people don't pick up the phone? What if they agree to come in but don't? What if people get angry at us and vent?). More likely, this would cost my store over a thousand dollars to keep track of. Why would we do this, if we're absolutely sure the systems would sell out anyway?


 Sorry I confused you Bodhesatva.  What I meant was do you think that the preorder list would be manageable if and only if the process was the buyer had to come to the store, fill out a pre-order, pay for the system 100% with tax and everything, and then wait for a call when their system came in?  Maybe that would still be Waaaaaaay too many people but that was kind of the question.  I can't imagine trying to manage a preorder list where all you did was basically make a list of names with a phone number.  That would be a complete waste of time for you, the store, etc.  I'd even go so far as to say the "preorder" had to be a package deal -- say system, one game, and one extra remote and/or wii play.   Having to front the full 100% for the convenience of knowing in 2ish weeks you'll get a system by just walking in and picking it up (paid in full of course) would certainly be worth it to some folks.

I'll agree, though, that selling out with absolute certainty pretty much puts a fork in this idea for the most part. 



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Systems I currently own:  360, PS3, Wii, DS Lite (2)
Systems I've owned: PS2, PS1, Dreamcast, Saturn, 3DO, Genesis, Gamecube, N64, SNES, NES, GBA, GB, C64, Amiga, Atari 2600 and 5200, Sega Game Gear, Vectrex, Intellivision, Pong.  Yes, Pong.

By only doing preoders with package deals, it would make it worth while. That way, instead of a little proffit from just one system to people who might be satisfied for months with just wii sports, you are forcing a higher attach rate. I think each $49 game is at least $10 for the store... I don't think 100% down would fly in America unless you can ensure delivery within 2 weeks. However, it would be possibe with a credit card where the funds are reserved immediately, but not billed until it's picked up. Once you bill a CC, they better deliver within 30 days or the CC companies will get complaints...



WII availability in the Netherlands:

Dimensionplus:

http://www.dimensionplus.nl/link.asp?pid=790000&z=86

Niet vooradig = not in stock (don't believe me, check here: http://babelfish.altavista.com)

Wehkamp:

http://www.wehkamp.nl/winkelen/p_produkt.asp?NoFrames=&BC=&Page=WIN&CC=C13&HC=EPN&SC=J10&KAC=J25&ArtikelNummer=624644&FromOverzicht=&FromThema=&ZoekMethode=&BAC=

Delivery time: 5 weeks

Futurezone:

http://www.futurezone.nl/default.aspx?ID=3789&SID=5185

Dit product is momenteel niet beschikbaar = This product is at the moment out of stock.

Bart Smit:

http://www.bartsmit.com/shop/productSearchResult.php?menuID=273

U kunt weer vrijblijvend reserveren totdat de volgende levering bij ons binnen gaat komen = You can make freely reservations until we will receive the next delivery.

With other words saying, no WII, nada, niente, nashi, niets, nothing...



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Well, shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone, since it has been said before on this forum, but the Wii is and has been available in Sweden for a good while now (though it is still selling very well).

It might get sold out in some stores from time to time (but so does x360 in individual stores). But from the online stores it is available (without bundles and with free shipping).

I have no freeking idea about the ps3... except it has a high stock in the online stores like discshop.se etc.



Diomedes, Spain is one of the biggest PS lovers of the world. I once bought a magazine that was made there. It featured about 60% PS stuff, 38% XBOX stuff, and 2% Nintendo stuff. That may change when Winning Eleven is eventualy released on Wii ( it will, mark my words), because people actually buy consoles for that games in Soccer loving countries such as Spain and my own. And for a single game, the cheapest console is the way to go. Sorry to make a off topic, I´m just tired that he keeps using Spain as a reference of Wii´s demand.



kn said:

austin


I live in south austin (tx) and I can't find any either. What part of town do you live in.



kn said:
Bodhesatva said:
kn said:
Bodhesatva said:
kn said:
Here's a question for the U.S. types: Why won't EB/Gamestop take preorders for Wiis? It seems silly that they would turn away a sale but they won't do it. For all they know the buyer could find one at Toys R Us, Wal Mart, Target, Best Buy, etc. and they will lose no only the sale of the console, but any accessories and games to go with it. At this point taking preorders would allow them to capture an otherwise possibly lost customer...

We did take pre orders about 4 months ago. The word got out fast: we had a queue of 200 people within four days. That was enough to keep us sold out for almost two months. Let's imagine we kept that queue open for, say, three more weeks. Based on that average, we'd have a queue of 1000 people. See the problem?


Were your pre-orders pay full price in advance? I.e. pay fully for the system plus tax or was it a $20 dollar deposit or just put your name on a list? Call me nuts but I can't imagine that many people paying 100 percent up front but maybe I'm wrong.


Absolutely, they were not. They were, in fact, paying 0. Are you suggesting that we take the numbers of thousands of people, only to have 50 percent (or more) tell us they'd already found a Wii, but thanks for calling anyway? I want to stress that this would take days of labor and hundreds if not thousands of dollars from my store. This isn't a joke: calling 4000+ people would take 4000+ minutes, which is 65 hours+ of labor. That's 600 dollars+ of man hours alone, not to mention any other possible costs (what if the people don't pick up the phone? What if they agree to come in but don't? What if people get angry at us and vent?). More likely, this would cost my store over a thousand dollars to keep track of. Why would we do this, if we're absolutely sure the systems would sell out anyway?


Sorry I confused you Bodhesatva. What I meant was do you think that the preorder list would be manageable if and only if the process was the buyer had to come to the store, fill out a pre-order, pay for the system 100% with tax and everything, and then wait for a call when their system came in? Maybe that would still be Waaaaaaay too many people but that was kind of the question. I can't imagine trying to manage a preorder list where all you did was basically make a list of names with a phone number. That would be a complete waste of time for you, the store, etc. I'd even go so far as to say the "preorder" had to be a package deal -- say system, one game, and one extra remote and/or wii play. Having to front the full 100% for the convenience of knowing in 2ish weeks you'll get a system by just walking in and picking it up (paid in full of course) would certainly be worth it to some folks.

I'll agree, though, that selling out with absolute certainty pretty much puts a fork in this idea for the most part.


It's cool. <3

Let me list the problems one by one:

1) They pay nothing. Problem: My company is forced to spend several days labor to keep up with these people, many -- if not most -- of whom won't be buying one from us anyway. Or do we really believe that person number 1565 in line is likely to wait 10+ months to get one, and not look anywhere else? :p

2) They pay in full. If they did this, we'd probably have a queue in the hundreds instead of the thousands. Still, person 500-600 in line would be waiting 9+ months, no question. We can't realistically expect people to wait nine months for this product. People could EASILY be waiting until after Christmas, and any unexpected hitches or bumps in shipping could cause enormous issues. What if we don't get any for a month? All that takes is one or two shipments stalled or delayed. The possibilities for disgruntled customers are enumerable with this strategy. 

3) They pay in part. This is actually the worst of the three possibilities, because it would have the problems of both the other two: many people would be waiting 9+ months to get the system (because they feel they're "stuck" buying one from us, since they put a deposit down), while others would try and back out when they find another system somewhere else. They'll want their deposits back. Handling that is awkward and often produces grumpy customers. It also takes even more time to process -- we'd probably be talking another day+ of labor required.

Overall, the problem is simple: taking pre-orders from 60-100 people for Halo3 is no big whoop (note, this is software), but taking pre-orders for Wiis from 1000+ people is a much bigger deal (note, this is 250 dollar hardware). It's messy, complicated, and expensive for the company. And as we've already agreed, since our company is going to sell them all on day one anyway, it's not worth our time right now :p



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It's amazing! Wiis finally sit in stores for about 4 hours... then they are gone. Even in the stores getting 20-30 a week. My local EB Games manager is freaking out because he hasn't sold a PS3 in 2 weeks and is getting 6 per week, but for some reason only 4 Wiis per week.