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Would you?

yes 4 7.27%
 
maybe 5 9.09%
 
no 41 74.55%
 
ninpie is rol 2 5 9.09%
 
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bananaking21 said:
i have to go now so m tagging this.

but that looks like a gamecube


No, this is way uglier than even the purple lunchbox Gamecube.



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torok said:
disolitude said:

Nvidia shield for example has currently the most powerful hardware of any android devices.

For me, the Snapdragon line takes the crown here with full OpenGL ES 3.0 support. Nvidia is dropping the ball hard on mobile and that is pretty sad because they have the right tech to dominate this area but are almost out of momentum because of bad decisions.


Valid point...but in terms of sheer processing power and stuff people reference on these forums (GFLOPS FTW), Tegra 4 is the current leader on the GPU side.

Tegra 5 is supposed to correct all this by bringing support for OpenGL ES 3.0, DX11 and OpenGL 4.4 in on SoC. 



Looks like something futuristic, but from the 80's. dat Bladerunner tech



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disolitude said:

That makes no sense. Android as an ecosystem isn't locked, and anything Google brings to the table games wise should be accessible on other platforms. 

Nvidia shield for example has currently the most powerful hardware of any android devices. One of best build qualities too... How will offer something much better then it shares the same OS and same software.

I don't understand what Google is going to do that will make them the better choice in gamers eyes, other than possibly provide a cheap $39 console that will have proprietary ad serving technology. 

I never said it would be "better" in gamers eyes.

I said by being a very well done streaming/multimedia device with packed in game controller, it would instantly hit mass market appeal for many various reasons nto specific to gaming.

Then I said that if its also powerful enough to either stream (like gaikai or onlive) or have digital download versions of the same 3rd party games we'll see on consoles, all for say a $150 price point (considering Google is known for putting out quality hardware at very low price points) it could be apealing to gamers as well.

I mean how many people are out there that don't care for any of the MSony 1st party content? I'd argue there is a very high number of people who only buy 3rd party stuff. Especially the COD/EA Sports crowd. (obviously this is generalization)

Additionally, Google has money. A lot of it. I can guarantee that once they go full force into a media/gaming tv device, we'll see exclusives. Big ones. of course, it will be what MS tried to do and an all digital device. But they won't get the negative flack as Android has only ever been a digital service.

I also see streaming big to Google as they live for the cloud and constant internet connection. Kind why they are also building up a fiber based internet service in the US.



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superchunk said:
disolitude said:

That makes no sense. Android as an ecosystem isn't locked, and anything Google brings to the table games wise should be accessible on other platforms. 

Nvidia shield for example has currently the most powerful hardware of any android devices. One of best build qualities too... How will offer something much better then it shares the same OS and same software.

I don't understand what Google is going to do that will make them the better choice in gamers eyes, other than possibly provide a cheap $39 console that will have proprietary ad serving technology. 

I never said it would be "better" in gamers eyes.

I said by being a very well done streaming/multimedia device with packed in game controller, it would instantly hit mass market appeal for many various reasons nto specific to gaming.

Then I said that if its also powerful enough to either stream (like gaikai or onlive) or have digital download versions of the same 3rd party games we'll see on consoles, all for say a $150 price point (considering Google is known for putting out quality hardware at very low price points) it could be apealing to gamers as well.

I mean how many people are out there that don't care for any of the MSony 1st party content? I'd argue there is a very high number of people who only buy 3rd party stuff. Especially the COD/EA Sports crowd. (obviously this is generalization)

Additionally, Google has money. A lot of it. I can guarantee that once they go full force into a media/gaming tv device, we'll see exclusives. Big ones. of course, it will be what MS tried to do and an all digital device. But they won't get the negative flack as Android has only ever been a digital service.

I also see streaming big to Google as they live for the cloud and constant internet connection. Kind why they are also building up a fiber based internet service in the US.

As far as I see, all Google can do better than someone like Nvidia is better marketing and cheaper price. Nvidia Shield is packed to the tits with technology including miracast support, PC game streaming, amazing build quality and hardware but it is slightly on the expensive side and no one really knows about it since its a niche device.

If Google secures an exclusive game, I don't see how they will be able to make it exclusive for Googles console since Android is about as secure as Polish-German border during WWII. Even if they lock it to their console, which would be very anti-android, it won't take long till the .APK and data files are available to download and play on many other Android devices.

IMO Google doesn't need a console. They need to start securing exclusive content and games now so that the gaming aspects of Android catches up to iOS. All the high profile mobile games lately (Xcom, DeusEx, Limbo, Plants VS Zombies 2...) are on iOS first and maybe they will come to Android down the road. I don't see how throwing a new piece of hardware to the market will help this problem, since Android already has most hardware sold to consumers.



So the initials of this Nexus Orbit would be 'NO'?

I'd agree to that.

Also, one of your answers to the poll is off-topic. I'm not going to point it out, *Cough* the fourth one *Cough*, but I thought you should know!



disolitude said:

Valid point...but in terms of sheer processing power and stuff people reference on these forums (GFLOPS FTW), Tegra 4 is the current leader on the GPU side.

Tegra 5 is supposed to correct all this by bringing support for OpenGL ES 3.0, DX11 and OpenGL 4.4 in on SoC. 


And Tegra 5 will bring CUDA to mobile platforms and real time hardware accelerated HDR (instead of taking a normal picture and seeing it on HDR after postprocessing, the camera will show the HDR image on realtime). That are killer features and Nvidia depends only on itself to make it a success like Tegra 2 was (price, 4G support, etc).



disolitude said:

As far as I see, all Google can do better than someone like Nvidia is better marketing and cheaper price. Nvidia Shield is packed to the tits with technology including miracast support, PC game streaming, amazing build quality and hardware but it is slightly on the expensive side and no one really knows about it since its a niche device.

If Google secures an exclusive game, I don't see how they will be able to make it exclusive for Googles console since Android is about as secure as Polish-German border during WWII. Even if they lock it to their console, which would be very anti-android, it won't take long till the .APK and data files are available to download and play on many other Android devices.

IMO Google doesn't need a console. They need to start securing exclusive content and games now so that the gaming aspects of Android catches up to iOS. All the high profile mobile games lately (Xcom, DeusEx, Limbo, Plants VS Zombies 2...) are on iOS first and maybe they will come to Android down the road. I don't see how throwing a new piece of hardware to the market will help this problem, since Android already has most hardware sold to consumers.

Except Nvidia Sheild and OUYA are game machines. I'm defining far more than a gaming machine.

The others simply don't have this immersion. The don't provide a full mass market experience. This is why they will fail as they are trying to be game consoles and simply cannot compete with the big three in this manner due to massive difference in content. They will fail.

But Google (and in reality all this is mirrored by Apple's similar likely future product) has the capacity, tech, services, and money to do it all... including buying exclusives.

And this is what Google needs and will make. This is clear if you follow their product(s) path.

bought android, stormed onto phone market.
branched android to phone vs tablet, then remerged... now growing in that market dramatically.
created ChromeOS and started in low-cost cloud based laptop market. Growing albeit slower.
Chrome now on phone/tablet and fully merged with pc/chromeos experience / sync.
created Google TV as branch from android. Already shown that android main branch and googleTV are remerging since Android 4.3.
Already noted that ChromeOS and Android will further merge as Android continues to grow. Chrome is simply that beachhead.

All services have merged to one account system and continue to merge across similar capabilities.
Android syncs all video/pics with G+
Store syncs all items with G+ for social interaction / rating.
chat systems now one common system across everything and last two items (voice/sms) stated to be coming very soon (likely android 4.4)
Android adds gaming hub to sync content and social with G+ etc. Android also has SDK for real controllers and further enhancements.

all services cloud/internet based.
Google starts high bandwidth and very cheap fiber optic network that includes android devices as remotes and full TV delivery (to replace cable/sat)

Very soon we'll see final push to have GoogleTV/ChromeOS/Android all one system, shared content simply different view of your google account due to real physical differences in the hardware. A TV/PC/Laptop/Tablet and phone different and should have UIs to best take advantage of that. Kinda why Win8 is failing or not growing as anticipated.

So with that.  We have Google Nexus devices that are amazing in phones/tablets/laptops. What we don't have is a real TV connected solution. Its the logical next step.

They want a box that will bridge all your cloud content to your prime entertainment system. Your TV/Stereo. They are even already deploying the backbone of that service via Fiber. They recognize a very important part of that full entertainment package is games and now they've stepped up their game in that area recently.

Google will have a Nexus TV type of box.
- sync with multiple google accounts to personalize your experience (standard feature as of android 4.2)
- full google search/indexing (googleTV) for anything
- full control via any device with appropriate app
- enhanced by Google Play for content (won't even need phone as the system itself utilizes google's cloud services, so iOS users can still use it and stream even from their PCs/iOS products thanks to Chromecast support)
- enhanced Google Chromecast from any device both cloud and locally stored
- full set of android applications, so you already have everything you could possibly want in entertainment
- enhanced gaming center with 'console/pc' level games and packed in standard dual-analog controller (wireless, mic support, etc)

Then you look at Nexus pricing.
- Phones are $300 vs $600 yet offer nearly identical level of hardware and style.
- Tablets are $200 vs $400 (7") or $250 vs $500 (10") yet offer nearly identical level of hardware and style.
- Laptops are $200~$300 vs $500+ yet offer similar functionality and any features a 'mass consumer' would need. Likely also match games as it can build off of similar gaming enhancement in this Nexus TV box I'm suggesting above. (of course there are still other limitations like lack of some specific apps or chromeOS having lower featured version of certian apps like CAD software or adobe photoshop)

So if consoles are $300 to $500, I'd expect Google to come in at $150~$250. Marketed well, thats a great device for a mass consumer or gamer of all levels.



NintendoPie said:

So the initials of this Nexus Orbit would be 'NO'?

I'd agree to that.

Also, one of your answers to the poll is off-topic. I'm not going to point it out, *Cough* the fourth one *Cough*, but I thought you should know!

;)

lol I didn't even see the initials of the system. That's kinda funny.