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Machiavellian on 06 September 2013
kitler53 said:
SSJGohan3972 said:
kitler53 said:
SSJGohan3972 said:
very smart advertisement for the people they are shooting for


whom is that?  the nfl fan that is watching an nfl game but really wishes they had a way to watch the game they are already watching?    that guy that wants to watch football but is desperate to have the game interupted by video chat calls?  the dude that thinks the already persistant onscreen game stat updates isn't enough and want to dedicate even more screen space to games other than the one they wanted to watch?


Obviously you do not like or feel the need for these features, nor do I in fact but that doesn't mean other people might not.

I watch the NFL pretty regularly but I don't do the fantasy stuff or watch multiple games at the same time and it's not that big a deal for me if I miss a week etc., but there are a LOT of very big NFL fans that pay hundreds of extra dollars on their already heavy cable or satellite bills to be able to watch every game just so they can study the games for their fantasy leagues, etc. Some of those same people might find the motion and voice controls cool and these people also include a large group of people that have large amounts of dispossable income (or credit) that overpay for TVs, audio/video systems, etc. and there's a chance if they like these features Microsoft might be able to intice them into dropping $500 just for these features - and heck just putting the advertisement out has got people like us talking about the XB1 again and that just translates to more knowledge of the subject matter for more people (the main point of advertising I believe).

I don't understand why people can't understand this but not everything is necessarily directed at you.


too many quotes.  as they all basically say the same thing so i'm just going to choose you to respond too...

..this is nothing to do with me.  the debate is centered around "what is the audience?".  ESPN was announced for 360 at E3 2010 and many made the exact same claims about how this is big back then.  it released to no fanfare in the sportz community and did nothing to expand 360's market.  fast forward to today and i'm rebutteling against those that think this is going to be impactful.  it has no exclusive content.  it is expensive. it many ways is it a hindrance to how a majority of people enjoy watching the game.  the target audience is tiny for this and limited to sportz fanatics that also already want a gaming machine.  someone is going to love the shit out of this and many prexisting xbox fans will enjoy having it too.   ..but the impact to expanding the xbox brand will be miniscule.

I am pretty sure no one made it big that MS was bring ESPN to the 360.  I can remember many people stating thats nice but no big deal.  Also how do you know ESPN did not expan the 360 market.  The 360 in the states has been the number one console for a long time.  Something must be selling the system since most gamers say MS exclusives dried up 2 years ago.

One thing I beieve you are missing from your argument.  Usually just one feature is not enough but when you continue to add more and more they all add to  complete product.  MS gets ESPN, NFL, Yahoo and other Sports related content.  Pretty soon the console has ever major sports content any fan would want.  While you dismiss one or two moves, this is not a sprint, its a marathon.  What you see from MS is a focus to bring all sports content to the XBL platform which as a complete product be a more compelling feature.

Sports is big around the world and MS is making a decided effort to bring that content and social feature so the XBL ecosystem which will then bring in the consumers.



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Machiavellian on 06 September 2013
dsgrue3 said:
Machiavellian said:
dsgrue3 said:

That's actually not what I said at all. You, as well as many in here, are simply allowing your fanhood to cloud your ability to find my argument (despite my many attempts to clarify for you). Remove your head from the clouds and read what I say.

I am saying that people not interested in gaming will not plop down $500 for the non-gaming features. It's not that type of device...it falls way short in that regard. The Venn diagram was intended to be used to make this explicitly clear for you. I mean, you're welcome to disagree with that analysis, but I think you have unrealistic expectations. 

As to the commercial, it appears MS must also understand your Venn diagram because the commercial did not show or talk about anything to do with games but showed the ability to have your fantasy updates on the same screen as your sports game.  It showed Skype snap ability and voice navigation.  Did it strike you that for the people where gaming isn't a big deal, those features are.  Seems the narrow focus is your perception.  Ms isn't marketing the X1 to that crowd as a gaming machine, its marketing to that crowd as an entertaiment machine.  This is what makes your argument not sound.  I know for a fact that people who are serious about their Sports, pay big money for large screen TVs, sound systems etc.  Plunking down down 500 for a device that integrate a lot of what you do in one area is a very strong feature.

MS is free to market their device as they please, no matter how stupidly. Yes the big screens are bought to enjoy the big picture, not to be cumbered by other things. 

A toaster is a toaster, no matter how many other features you add to it.


So what you are saying is that marketing does not make a difference for a device.  

If a toaster could make me coffee, a grilled cheese sandwitch and egg over easy when I wake up in the morning, well I know what toaster I would purchase.



dsgrue3 on 06 September 2013
Machiavellian said:
dsgrue3 said:

MS is free to market their device as they please, no matter how stupidly. Yes the big screens are bought to enjoy the big picture, not to be cumbered by other things. 

A toaster is a toaster, no matter how many other features you add to it.


So what you are saying is that marketing does not make a difference for a device.  

If a toaster could make me coffee, a grilled cheese sandwitch and egg over easy when I wake up in the morning, well I know what toaster I would purchase.

If I market a toaster by showing its ability to check email, that's a rather inept way of advertising a product that toasts things no?

I think your analogy is quite disingenuous to what the Xbox One does. These are side features that enhance the product...it isn't incorporating any other main features. It does not offer TV services - it simply enhances already paid for services. 



Max King of the Wild on 06 September 2013
MB1025 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
I didn't see a reason to go out and get one for 500 dollars if I were watching the game tonight.


That would have been your feeling no matter what so why even comment.


Lol, defensive much? I said the same thing as zappykins. You need to chill out and stop with the me vs them mentality



Max King of the Wild on 06 September 2013
Goatseye said:

Join the club...

You think we could get a club rolling here in VGC only by people that come to MS/Xbox threads?


i think we can get an "overly defensive" club rolling. Its membership would be based on people who carry off topic flaimbait conversations because they think their shit dont stink



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superchunk on 06 September 2013
thx1139 said:
I really look forward to continuing to watch Bears games with my sons as they go away to college. The ability to have Skype up while we watch together will be awesome.


Did you notice the Bears vs Packers plug in the trailer? ;)

Also, why are you not in the NFL prediction league? I need more Bears fans. Especially since rol is a Packers fan.



Adinnieken on 06 September 2013
Augen said:
I agree that sport viewing is a social event, but generally it is done three ways for me.

1. At the pub
2. At the stadium
3. At a get together

Of course I never watch NFL. Or have cable. Or internet. So all this is likely aimed at different viewing habits of a sporting culture (I still have no clue how fantasy sports work) I know next to nothing about.

My guess is that if Microsoft had any kind of agreement with a football association, they would likely gear it toward that culture. 

And if you don't have Internet, how they hell are you on this forum?



Adinnieken on 06 September 2013
superchunk said:
thx1139 said:
I really look forward to continuing to watch Bears games with my sons as they go away to college. The ability to have Skype up while we watch together will be awesome.


Did you notice the Bears vs Packers plug in the trailer? ;)

Also, why are you not in the NFL prediction league? I need more Bears fans. Especially since rol is a Packers fan.

NFC North Represent!!!

I knew there was a reason why I didn't like Rol. 



Adinnieken on 06 September 2013
riderz13371 said:
This snapping to Skype while watching the game thing is really good, if only Skype wasn't behind a paywall...I'd rather just use my laptop to skype while watching a game. I don't understand why Microsoft puts Skype behind a paywall when they are the ones that own it -.-

Because Skype on the Xbox One is full featured, in fact it has more features, than the version you get free on PC.  As well, voice chat and video chat has always been a part of Xbox LIVE Gold membership. 

With Skype on PC, it requires a paid account to video conference with more than 1 person.  Xbox LIVE membership allows you to Skype (video chat) with multiple people.  If you want, you can also add a Skype paid account to get true VOIP features like a unique phone number, voice mail, and free calling across North America, and/or the UK.  There may be other options in Europe, but I don't know what they are.



Max King of the Wild on 06 September 2013
superchunk said:


Did you notice the Bears vs Packers plug in the trailer? ;)

Also, why are you not in the NFL prediction league? I need more Bears fans. Especially since rol is a Packers fan.


There arent enough bears fans because they suck. Ill actually slightly support them when they have a chance to win the superbowl (instead of completely oppose them). The bears are my least liked chicago team.... (sorry, i forgot avout the cubs when i made that statement... thats because that team is so easily forgetable)