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Machiavellian on 06 September 2013
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kitler53 said:
SSJGohan3972 said:
kitler53 said:
SSJGohan3972 said:
very smart advertisement for the people they are shooting for


whom is that?  the nfl fan that is watching an nfl game but really wishes they had a way to watch the game they are already watching?    that guy that wants to watch football but is desperate to have the game interupted by video chat calls?  the dude that thinks the already persistant onscreen game stat updates isn't enough and want to dedicate even more screen space to games other than the one they wanted to watch?


Obviously you do not like or feel the need for these features, nor do I in fact but that doesn't mean other people might not.

I watch the NFL pretty regularly but I don't do the fantasy stuff or watch multiple games at the same time and it's not that big a deal for me if I miss a week etc., but there are a LOT of very big NFL fans that pay hundreds of extra dollars on their already heavy cable or satellite bills to be able to watch every game just so they can study the games for their fantasy leagues, etc. Some of those same people might find the motion and voice controls cool and these people also include a large group of people that have large amounts of dispossable income (or credit) that overpay for TVs, audio/video systems, etc. and there's a chance if they like these features Microsoft might be able to intice them into dropping $500 just for these features - and heck just putting the advertisement out has got people like us talking about the XB1 again and that just translates to more knowledge of the subject matter for more people (the main point of advertising I believe).

I don't understand why people can't understand this but not everything is necessarily directed at you.


too many quotes.  as they all basically say the same thing so i'm just going to choose you to respond too...

..this is nothing to do with me.  the debate is centered around "what is the audience?".  ESPN was announced for 360 at E3 2010 and many made the exact same claims about how this is big back then.  it released to no fanfare in the sportz community and did nothing to expand 360's market.  fast forward to today and i'm rebutteling against those that think this is going to be impactful.  it has no exclusive content.  it is expensive. it many ways is it a hindrance to how a majority of people enjoy watching the game.  the target audience is tiny for this and limited to sportz fanatics that also already want a gaming machine.  someone is going to love the shit out of this and many prexisting xbox fans will enjoy having it too.   ..but the impact to expanding the xbox brand will be miniscule.

I am pretty sure no one made it big that MS was bring ESPN to the 360.  I can remember many people stating thats nice but no big deal.  Also how do you know ESPN did not expan the 360 market.  The 360 in the states has been the number one console for a long time.  Something must be selling the system since most gamers say MS exclusives dried up 2 years ago.

One thing I beieve you are missing from your argument.  Usually just one feature is not enough but when you continue to add more and more they all add to  complete product.  MS gets ESPN, NFL, Yahoo and other Sports related content.  Pretty soon the console has ever major sports content any fan would want.  While you dismiss one or two moves, this is not a sprint, its a marathon.  What you see from MS is a focus to bring all sports content to the XBL platform which as a complete product be a more compelling feature.

Sports is big around the world and MS is making a decided effort to bring that content and social feature so the XBL ecosystem which will then bring in the consumers.