bananaking21 said:

are you saying ethomaz is a troll? and provide me examples of all of these posts you are claiming he posts? 

Adinnieken said:

You didn't answer my question.

Are you full of shit or do you purposefully troll the forums, knowing the correct answer but making statements contrary to what you know or believe just to create discord?

My problem isn't whether you in whatever capcity you have in whatever company you're in, know everything there is possibly to know, but that as someone in whatever capcity it is, has the ability to research the information out there, listen to what is being said by the parties involved, and capable of offering an honest answer or do you just default to trolling?

Because while you were nice enough to post that, you never attempted to support my argument that Microsoft could be doing any number of logical things, which you so conventiently did offer in this thread, but instead attempted to perpetuate the argument that Microsoft was mad and forced AMD to retract it's statement. 

When the reality was, as I posted, that either AMD didn't actually know because Microsoft was the one who customized the chip OR they were under NDA so they couldn't talk about it.

I'm sick and tired of people saying "No, that's not true." and then offering absolutely no evidence to back it up, when someone else actually does some work.

Your post earlier is simply a slight of hand trick.  You're not telling us what is wrong with the original post, you're just saying "See over here, I can do something similiar with this other thing."  Great!  He's not talking the frequency of the memory.  If you just think he's wrong because you don't like what he's saying because it isn't technically accruate or you just don't like the Xbox One having a CPU speed of 1.9GHz, boo-hoo.  Prove him wrong. 

I'm not saying he's right.  I'm not sure how the information he's referring to quite correlates to CPU frequency, but I'm not saying "No, that's not true." either.  He's more of an expert in semi-conductors than I am.  But because I'm not refuting him, because I'm not saying he's wrong, I don't have to sit here and actually offer something concrete someone else can follow to prove otherwise.  You stuck your headout sir, and sorry if you caught my ire but I'm tired of people refuting something without any means of backing it up.

There are times when I respect your responses, despite not liking it, but there there are times like this when I get the impression you're full of it.

Just because you don't know, doesn't mean it isn't true.  I'm beginning to think there is more that you don't know, but to save face you just BS.

Sorry for the rant, but my 2¢.

are you saying ethomaz is a troll? and provide me examples of all of these posts you are claiming he posts? 

Dose he work for Microsoft or owned Xbox one console second he heard a news said its BS how does he knows its BS he got a proof ? 

he came in and gave his opinion, you can always use the ignore feature if you dont like what a poster says. ethomaz can in, and posted his opinion about a matter and formed that opinion with the knowledge he has about PC hardware, this is what the forum is about talking and discussing. you have no right to tell him he cant do that just because his post might have hurt your feelings

No. I'm not trolling... I just like the things right without lies.

The first bold: what happened is just that... MS gets mad because the AMD comment at Gamescom (it was not a comments at all.. it was a presentation from AMD)... MS didn't like that then called them and AMD said "I won't comment anything more about consoles". I think MS is right... it is AMD fault to give example that sound like downplaying the other side... but in fact hUMA or not that's doesn't matter because the MS soluction can works better than AMD.

The second bold: I give you information about what make his assumptions wrong... the clock can be true but not because his assumptions.

I can make you accpect what I'm talking but he explanation is... I give you a example using his logic the CPU/GPU are syncronous and runs 1.7Ghz and 853Mhz (this clock can be true but it is bullshit too)... fact (AMD documentation) the CPU, HT, NB, GPU clocks in APU are not syncronized... each part have their own clock.

The 128bits bus width fits better than any explanation.

So I will ask something... what make him you says I'm wrong and him not?