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IIt's better this way, I would hate a world with digital only games. It is a nice vision and I could see the benefits but for me nothing beats owning the physical copies.



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tres said:
Zappykins said:
tres said:

Oh, We was talking about a possible console in the future.  A Mini-Slim Xbox One where they drop the Blu-ray and make a bigger hard drive and make it all digital.  I said they would need to make retail cards/vouchers for their games to keep the retails happy (like GameStop.)

It's cool isn't it, that you can play a game as it is downloading or installing.

what about if they sould something like this http://www.bestbuy.com/site/PNY+-+Micro+Sleek+Attach%26%23233%3B+16GB+USB+Flash+Drive+-+Blue/5577173.p?id=1218665493458&skuId=5577173&st=Select_PNY_Flash_Drives_109114&cp=1&lp=1

that would upload the first 10gb of a game to the system.

Yes, I think that's why both Xbox One and PS4 have USB 3.0.  But I haven't seen either one push those as an option.

Have you seen how big they have gotten?  http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Predator-DataTraveler-512GB-DTHXP30/dp/B00AV3XGPW/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1377812824&sr=8-8&keywords=1+terabyte+usb+flash+drive



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

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endimion said:

people still buy movies on discs ??? lol
well for DVDs it's a non issue by now people getting an XB1 probably have a DVD player already... and well for BR I have had one for 4 years free on my cable box... and I never bought a single BR... I rent or buy my movies in DD only now....

but good question for the one who cares... BR are gonna be the vinyls of the 21st century :)

Lol, not that much anymore.  And I think Blu-ray is a dying medium and old school DVD's still sell more.  But sometimes, say when you travel, you can get something you can't get at home.  Blu-rays are better than DVD's in that they have few region codes.  But if you buy a Blu-ray in Australia it might not play in the USA and visa versa.  But a USA disk, will play just fine in Japan.

The work around for this is you have no region code on the player.  So they could all play everywhere.

Blu-ray region code map:

DVD's were even worse.  Cross the border from Mexico and buy a DVD, it might not play when you get back home.

DVD Region code map:



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

Tell me a funny joke!

Anfebious said:
IIt's better this way, I would hate a world with digital only games. It is a nice vision and I could see the benefits but for me nothing beats owning the physical copies.

Would you mind elaborating?  Is it that you get to hold it in your hands or something else?

I love having everything digital and not having to hunt down a game or getting up to switch a movie.  The only thing I miss is sometimes the booklets contain sometimes comes with a game as the lore or other techniques can be helpful.  But if I can get that on a tablet/phone then I wouldn't care at all.

Plus I love not having to store or move things.  A clean room with a few accessories and few dust collectors is great for me.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

Tell me a funny joke!

Zappykins said:
endimion said:
 

people still buy movies on discs ??? lol
well for DVDs it's a non issue by now people getting an XB1 probably have a DVD player already... and well for BR I have had one for 4 years free on my cable box... and I never bought a single BR... I rent or buy my movies in DD only now....

but good question for the one who cares... BR are gonna be the vinyls of the 21st century :)

Lol, not that much anymore.  And I think Blu-ray is a dying medium and old school DVD's still sell more.  But sometimes, say when you travel, you can get something you can't get at home.  Blu-rays are better than DVD's in that they have few region codes.  But if you buy a Blu-ray in Australia it might not play in the USA and visa versa.  But a USA disk, will play just fine in Japan.

The work around for this is you have no region code on the player.  So they could all play everywhere.

Blu-ray region code map:

DVD's were even worse.  Cross the border from Mexico and buy a DVD, it might not play when you get back home.

DVD Region code map:

microsoft lost the gamble with bluray only in capacity.  i have never used a bluray and i have ps3 lol.  i like the convenience of netflix



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Zappykins said:
Anfebious said:
IIt's better this way, I would hate a world with digital only games. It is a nice vision and I could see the benefits but for me nothing beats owning the physical copies.

Would you mind elaborating?  Is it that you get to hold it in your hands or something else?

I love having everything digital and not having to hunt down a game or getting up to switch a movie.  The only thing I miss is sometimes the booklets contain sometimes comes with a game as the lore or other techniques can be helpful.  But if I can get that on a tablet/phone then I wouldn't care at all.

Plus I love not having to store or move things.  A clean room with a few accessories and few dust collectors is great for me.


I could see the same benefits as you except one thing. I love to collect them!, it sounds weird but I love having the games on the shelf just so I can browse through my collection. Also the manuals! I love them.

Then again if you get them digitally you don't have to trouble yourself trying to find the game, going to the store and buying the game. Also a collection can take a lot of space and you can use the space for other things. Also if it is implemented like steam we could see some games cheaper.

In conclusion that is my problem, I love to collect them and have them in my shelf, but that doesn't mean that I don't have digital games. In fact I have quite a lot but I like to have the option of having the digital and the physical format.



"I've Underestimated the Horse Power from Mario Kart 8, I'll Never Doubt the WiiU's Engine Again"

Zappykins said:
endimion said:
 

people still buy movies on discs ??? lol
well for DVDs it's a non issue by now people getting an XB1 probably have a DVD player already... and well for BR I have had one for 4 years free on my cable box... and I never bought a single BR... I rent or buy my movies in DD only now....

but good question for the one who cares... BR are gonna be the vinyls of the 21st century :)

Lol, not that much anymore.  And I think Blu-ray is a dying medium and old school DVD's still sell more.  But sometimes, say when you travel, you can get something you can't get at home.  Blu-rays are better than DVD's in that they have few region codes.  But if you buy a Blu-ray in Australia it might not play in the USA and visa versa.  But a USA disk, will play just fine in Japan.

The work around for this is you have no region code on the player.  So they could all play everywhere.

Blu-ray region code map:

DVD's were even worse.  Cross the border from Mexico and buy a DVD, it might not play when you get back home.

DVD Region code map:

teah rememberthe DVD zoning pain in the rear. Luckily in France most DVD player are multi zone. Never checked if it was the same for BR though



tres said:

microsoft lost the gamble with bluray only in capacity.  i have never used a bluray and i have ps3 lol.  i like the convenience of netflix

I'm with you there.  Netflix, HBO GO, Amazing Digtial and Xbox Movies/TV is where I usually get my stuff.  Unless I can find it on Blu-ray DVD for like 1/30th the price.   Nothing to store, dusk, break, lose, find, and it's all there.

The sad thing is do your realize how close there were to one new HD Disk format?  Microsoft was going to do most of the digital part and Sony and partners the manufacturing.  



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

Tell me a funny joke!

Anfebious said:

I could see the same benefits as you except one thing. I love to collect them!, it sounds weird but I love having the games on the shelf just so I can browse through my collection. Also the manuals! I love them.

Then again if you get them digitally you don't have to trouble yourself trying to find the game, going to the store and buying the game. Also a collection can take a lot of space and you can use the space for other things. Also if it is implemented like steam we could see some games cheaper.

In conclusion that is my problem, I love to collect them and have them in my shelf, but that doesn't mean that I don't have digital games. In fact I have quite a lot but I like to have the option of having the digital and the physical format.

That's cool.  It makes you happy.  I have all mine lined up together, although all the disk are actually in a case near my consoles.  I thought some of the resin artwork was really cool. 

Another thing that could lower the price, is all the cost of manufacturing, distribution, reselling, etc.  Unfortunately, this will put many people in those jobs out of work.

Have fun, unless it gets out of hand and you end up on hoarders, lol.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

Tell me a funny joke!

we will see. i still think they will be rolling them out again as "features" bc i think that they know the public can be just that stupid. i think they will try to give it another shot eventually. give it some time and if they taste big success you can about bet on something.