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BornFirst. on 08 February 2008
kingofwale said:
TWRoO said:
@kingofwale... I just want to ask, why can't you use the quote button? are you posting from a restrictive browser (phone?) or something?

regarding Wii Fit, I can't say I was initially interested in the ame at all, but the actual balance board opens up a lot of possibilities for me, and I hope soon that third parties get their asses into gear reagarding some neat ideas.

I have grown a bit more interested in the actual Wii Fit game though, because early on I had only seen videos for the Yoga, the Skiing and the football heading thing, which didn't seem worth it (the skiing looks good but I wasn't going to buy all that just for 1 minigame).
I am in two minds whether to buy it still, but that's mainly because it will be expensive and I rarely spend more than £40 on a game... I imagine I might get it when it is chaper and some other games have included the functionality of the balance board (no doubt all early third party efforts will just be copies of Wii fit, or else hybrids of Wii fit and DDR though)

because I don't like box within box within box... lol, you catch my drift.

Thanks for someone for posting 2 videos. I've only seen Wiifit in action in the soccer game, but wow, poor guy's first pushup wasn't even counted. lol, what's your view on it? It kind of re-enforced my believe it's actually a 'workout video'. ;)

 in the second video, the guy's say "you have to keep the dot in the yellow box, it's not as easy as it looks". hmmm, isn't the dot your centre of gravity? So if it goes over the yellow box, you fall over, Physics 101, I don't think it's impossible for you to NOT be in the yellow box. lol

also, here's people who said that PS3/360 fans better start getting used to mini-games, because it will be taking over. (or something of this sort), I utterly disagree. Sure, we will see tons of this kind of game for Wii, but I will not buy it and I hope most people won't (at least shovelwares), and big company will still make good, high budget games that push the graphical power on PS3 and 360.

 

what we will have is a huge division between Wii and PS360. If without games like Zelda, SMG, SSBB, MK, Z&W, NMH, MP3, there will not be any agreement between Wii and PS360 fans.


 And you keep misunderstanding what people are saying. so let me spell it out for you, The Market is bit enough to hold all types of games, nobody wants mini games to replace anything, and i think by this you have shown what your insecurity truly is. Even with examples of great games coming in the future, Monster Hunter 3, Resident Evil 5, and MGS4, you still feel threatened. Well then, you will always get your big deep fantasy adventure games, don't worry about that, many developer have said they are not interested in making mini/casual games.



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kingofwale on 08 February 2008

>i do wonder what kind of survey it is when you ask only a small(specific) part of the whole cake

because it wasn't meant to be a 'scientific' survey? I just want to know what other console owners think of Wiifit

Because I know 99% of PS360 owners would probably sell their kidney to have SSBB or MK ported to their system, but what's their view on the third biggest hit this year on Wii?

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Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
kirby007 on 08 February 2008
kingofwale said:
>I just made an assumption about you,

debater rule number 1. do NOT let your personal feeling influence your view.

debater rule number 2. focus on the topic, not your opponent.

debater rule number 3. do not label others, as everyone will feel that you are unable to defend your point without going into personal attacks.

Follow those rules and you will improve your ability.

>You are mistaken, This isn't a debate, this is a survey.

 

remember that? ...



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Fastrabbit09 on 08 February 2008
Smidlee said:
The video with the push-ups doesn't look that impressive as a trainer. When I do push-ups I don't leave my arms straight that long so to keep pressure (weight) on my triceps.

u are more hardcore and not the target audience...the people who this is for don't have knowledge of proper form or the intricate details of muscle mass gain



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Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp
Hawk on 08 February 2008
BornFirst. said:

And you keep misunderstanding what people are saying. so let me spell it out for you, The Market is bit enough to hold all types of games, nobody wants mini games to replace anything, and i think by this you have shown what your insecurity truly is. Even with examples of great games coming in the future, Monster Hunter 3, Resident Evil 5, and MGS4, you still feel threatened. Well then, you will always get your big deep fantasy adventure games, don't worry about that, many developer have said they are not interested in making mini/casual games.


Thanks BornFirst. (Sorry, a Multi Console/Wii Owner Here). This whole insecurity some people have that 'the game industry is being ruined!' because some games are coming out that they don't like, that a large amount of other people actually do, is driving me nuts. Why don't they understand that there are still 'hardcore gamers' and the demand for 'hardcore' games. That's not going away for any reason. Just because I want to get WiiFit does not mean all of a sudden I'll never buy games like Resident Evil or Halo or Monster Hunter 3 or Eternal Sonata EVER AGAIN! Or that new gamers that are only interested in WiiFit or MiniGames are somehow going to gobble up a 'hardcore' gamer and make them disappear, lessening the demand for 'hardcore' games.

And I saw you mention, kingofwales, that you see people saying minigames or party games are going to take over. Who's said that? Have any references? I guess it's possible you've seen that, but I never have. I think it's what you are hearing when people are simply defending that such games are fun, valid, or truely in demand. Again, a security issue. Dude. Don't worry, WiiFit will not ruin the industry. And I'm still going to buy 'hardcore' games as well.



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kingofwale on 08 February 2008
BornFirst. said:
@kingofwale:

For people like you, this gen is gonna be a hard one, simply put, because there will be games you do not understand that will sell very well, but i am hoping as time goes on you open your heart a little more and give these things a try before you dismis them, i am asuming you have not even touched the balance board or seen many games for it.

 > And I saw you mention, kingofwales, that you see people saying minigames or party games are going to take over.  Who's said that?  Have any references?

let me quote it for ya, (well, it's above. lol)



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
CrashMan on 08 February 2008

I have noticed that kingofwale has not ONCE responded directly to anything that he could not shrug off (ie his complete contradiction in saying it was not a debate, then saying it was a debate)



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TheRealMafoo on 08 February 2008
kingofwale said:
>i do wonder what kind of survey it is when you ask only a small(specific) part of the whole cake

because it wasn't meant to be a 'scientific' survey? I just want to know what other console owners think of Wiifit

Because I know 99% of PS360 owners would probably sell their kidney to have SSBB or MK ported to their system, but what's their view on the third biggest hit this year on Wii?

if you don't like it, you don't have to reply

 Just to add a data point.

I could care less about SSBB or MK and I am sure almost every single console owning non Wii owner would agree with me.

Why would someone sell a Kidney for that game? All you need to do is spend $250 and buy a Wii. Price has never been a factor for me, and probably not for the people who spent 2-3 times as much for there console of choice. We just don't like the games.

I am glad you do, but please don't assume everyone does. 



kingofwale on 08 February 2008

>I have noticed that kingofwale has not ONCE responded directly to anything that he could not shrug off

because I want to keep this friendly, like I said, it's a survey, not a flamebait, and I want people to talk about their opinion WITHOUT having to fear of being flamed?



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
BornFirst. on 08 February 2008
kingofwale said:
BornFirst. said:
@kingofwale:

For people like you, this gen is gonna be a hard one, simply put, because there will be games you do not understand that will sell very well, but i am hoping as time goes on you open your heart a little more and give these things a try before you dismis them, i am asuming you have not even touched the balance board or seen many games for it.

 > And I saw you mention, kingofwales, that you see people saying minigames or party games are going to take over.  Who's said that?  Have any references?

let me quote it for ya, (well, it's above. lol)


 No where in that statement did i say it would take over, infact what i did say are games that you don't understand aka wii fit sell a lot, and by your veiw will keep you dumbfounded , try and read through my post properly and don't put words in my mouth, thanks



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"Life is either a daring adventure or nothing"- Helen Keller

"i am not discouraged, because every wrong attempt discarded is another step forward"-Thomas Edison

"Man is not the creature of circumstances. Circumstances are the creatures of men"