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errorpwns on 24 August 2013

Not for me. My PC+Physx already achieves next gen levels of graphical quality. Those particle effects in Infamous were nothing new.



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Zero999 on 24 August 2013
JoeTheBro said:
Zero999 said:
JoeTheBro said:

Every single gen, people always think and say things like this.

The truth is, yes. In 5 years these launch games will look like crap.

i don't recall those claims every gen. regardless, ps360 set the standard in a way that there will never be any big graphical jump anymore.

No they didn't.

Read up on some old threads if you want. Here's the 360 reveal. Most people thought the graphics sucked. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46948

Also people talked about diminishing returns, a lot.

who cares about the reveal? check what ps360 do at their best and it's obvious that a big graphical difference is impossible.



curl-6 on 24 August 2013
Otakumegane said:
curl-6 said:
AnthonyW86 said:

 

 

It's actually pretty huge.

That section from FFXV was CG in the trailer.

I still don't agree its a huge leap from X's graphics to FF15's. Certainly not a graphical generation leap as seen in prior transitions like from PS2/Xbox to PS3/360, or N64/PS1 to GCN/PS2.



NoirSon on 24 August 2013

Don't think graphics will really improve that much but I do think subtler things like physics engines and NPC/enemy AI should improve a great deal.

If the developers can afford it.



errorpwns on 24 August 2013
Zero999 said:
JoeTheBro said:
Zero999 said:
JoeTheBro said:

Every single gen, people always think and say things like this.

The truth is, yes. In 5 years these launch games will look like crap.

i don't recall those claims every gen. regardless, ps360 set the standard in a way that there will never be any big graphical jump anymore.

No they didn't.

Read up on some old threads if you want. Here's the 360 reveal. Most people thought the graphics sucked. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46948

Also people talked about diminishing returns, a lot.

who cares about the reveal? check what ps360 do at their best and it's obvious that a big graphical difference is impossible.

Look what Crysis was able to show when it came out. PCs set a standard. Not consoles.



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errorpwns on 24 August 2013
BloodyRain said:

It will be alot better by the end of the generation. Just look at the beginning of this gen and compare it to now. Launch games on next gen already look better then current like with killzone sf, ryse, and infamous ss especially looks just gorgeous to name a few.

 

What's so impressive about infamous? Physx has done that for quite some time now. I guess up until it was on consoles it was just "GIMICK!" now that consoles have the ability to run fancy particle effects the tech is somehow impressive?



Mohasus on 24 August 2013
Zero999 said:
JoeTheBro said:
Zero999 said:
JoeTheBro said:

Every single gen, people always think and say things like this.

The truth is, yes. In 5 years these launch games will look like crap.

i don't recall those claims every gen. regardless, ps360 set the standard in a way that there will never be any big graphical jump anymore.

No they didn't.

Read up on some old threads if you want. Here's the 360 reveal. Most people thought the graphics sucked. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46948

Also people talked about diminishing returns, a lot.

who cares about the reveal? check what ps360 do at their best and it's obvious that a big graphical difference is impossible.


Well, then you gotta wait to check what PS4 will do at its best. Probably way ahead of this:

http://images.eurogamer.net/2013/articles//a/1/5/9/0/9/6/7/1.bmp.jpg

Look at those PS2 buildings in the background.



errorpwns on 24 August 2013
Mohasus said:
Zero999 said:
JoeTheBro said:
Zero999 said:
JoeTheBro said:

Every single gen, people always think and say things like this.

The truth is, yes. In 5 years these launch games will look like crap.

i don't recall those claims every gen. regardless, ps360 set the standard in a way that there will never be any big graphical jump anymore.

No they didn't.

Read up on some old threads if you want. Here's the 360 reveal. Most people thought the graphics sucked. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46948

Also people talked about diminishing returns, a lot.

who cares about the reveal? check what ps360 do at their best and it's obvious that a big graphical difference is impossible.


Well, then you gotta wait to check what PS4 will do at its best. Probably way ahead of this:

http://images.eurogamer.net/2013/articles//a/1/5/9/0/9/6/7/1.bmp.jpg

That's awful. The last of us honestly cannot look that bad. That's edited right? There's more mud in those textures than the entire swamp.



RenCutypoison on 24 August 2013

Well, it's not the gap is getting smaller, it's just that we won't look at the same things.

This gen had realistic models and texture, now it's going to be about facial animation, particle effects, dynamic lighting, alpha transparency ...



errorpwns on 24 August 2013
RenCutypoison said:
Well, it's not the gap is getting smaller, it's just that we won't look at the same things.

This gen had realistic models and texture, now it's going to be about facial animation, particle effects, dynamic lighting, alpha transparency ...


Every console game I've played this gen has had awful muddy textures. They brought the textures into nearly every PC port and it sucked. Not to say the games were bad on the console as I enjoyed them. Just the textures were not great. The PC had advanced particle effects, dynamic lighting, etc. I guess it was a gen of its own? Anyways I look forward to seeing improved facial animation. Consoles getting these things mean every PC port now will finally get better stuff.