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sales2099 said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
sales2099 said:
 

Seriously? Anything? Listen to yourself. Meet me half way here and try to at least see the bias coming out of you.

All those indie titles are rumored to be timed exclusive anyway. But even if not, these are games that can run on PS3 and Vita.....wheres the true next gen games? Oh right, Sony is silent on them so your just blindly going on faith in the meantime......gimme a break.

Killzone, Drive Club, Infamous, Knack, and Order 1886? X1 has Halo coming out next year, which is infinitely bigger then KZ. Forza is a 90+ meta franchise, I can play Saints Row 4 and GTA5 for my wacky/massive sandbox fix. Project Spark looks amazing for what it offers. And Dead Rising 3, Ryse, and Killer Instinct seem more interesting then Order 1886.Not to mention the mega hitter Titanfall.....while multiplat and will probably come to PS4 after a period of time, it will be on X1 and not on PS4, and by the time it does come, gamers will have moved on and the hype gone.

Just making a counter point.......please don't say it doesn't have "anything" on PS4. Timed exclusive last gen indie games are not something to be overrelying on


hey are good games and GAMERS play games they like not just what's new. But I did understand your post and why you responded the way you did to the other guy. It was arrogant and wrong for him tos ay that plain and simple. PEACE!!!

Just saying the opposing point of view for arguemtns sake. I am aware my opinion is easily debatable. But to say X1 has "nothing" on PS4.......those people can't be reasoned with.

Yeah that I can agree with sir!



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XBONE has some interesting games but the fact is Sony has a lot more games in development that have not been announced. Additionally, being the home of indies is important because AAA games do not come out every month so while you wait in between releases Sony's console will have lots to play.

Then Sony will be releasing their big stable of console games, which has been and will likely continue to be much bigger and more diverse than MS exclusive lineup.



sales2099 said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
sales2099 said:
 

The meta flaws work both ways but are still a decent indicator.

I know Sony has AAA games coming, but going based on what we know I can say MS has more X1 AAA games until proven wrong.

MS is actually bothering, they just aren't showcasing them. Even before their policy shifts, they have been getting great XBLA games left and right. AAA refers to big budgets.......I tried to say AAA was quality (90+ meta), but that keeps getting shot down lol.


Dont think so. Did you see Shadow of the beast or Rime. They both look like AAA titles. Budget is everything when making a game. 

As it stands now, they don't have anything over Sony. 

Seriously? Anything? Listen to yourself. Meet me half way here and try to at least see the bias coming out of you.

Most of those indie titles are rumored to be timed exclusive anyway. But even if not, these are games that can run on PS3 and Vita.....wheres the true next gen games? Oh right, Sony is silent on them so your just blindly going on faith in the meantime......gimme a break.

Killzone, Drive Club, Infamous, Knack, and Order 1886? X1 has Halo coming out next year, which is infinitely bigger then KZ. Forza is a 90+ meta franchise, I can play Saints Row 4 and GTA5 for my wacky/massive sandbox fix. Project Spark looks amazing for what it offers. And Dead Rising 3, Ryse, and Killer Instinct seem more interesting then Order 1886.Not to mention the mega hitter Titanfall.....while multiplat and will probably come to PS4 after a period of time, it will be on X1 and not on PS4, and by the time it does come, gamers will have moved on and the hype gone.

Just making a counter point.......please don't say it doesn't have "anything" on PS4. Timed exclusive last gen indie games are not something to be overrelying on

Infamous is much more than "wacky" and a "sand box fix" so is GTA V for that matter. Going by your logic then you don't need Crackdown if GTA and Saints Row are sufficient for you? Tell me what  1st party studios and Ips will be able to compete with Naughty Dog, Sony SM and Media Molecule in the enxt year or so, I mean killer Instinct and Fable will already be overshadowed by Second Son and Killzone. Halo 4 got an 87 meta which is indeed a great score but for Halo which was consistantly in the 90s before when devloped by Bungie thats just not up to standard for Microsofts main franchise. If it was a spin off or whatever like Ascension or Judgment I can udnersatnd but that was the massive new entry to the series. Destiny is for Ps4 made by the original developers a "great" halo is nothing really that special. Sure Sony has some timed exlcusives but their first aprty titles outweigh them, its pretty sad when microsoft has to rely on them as their main "exlcusives".



JoeTheBro said:
Xenobot said:

IMHO this was so low and not funny.

In addition AC4 remote play demo seemed like fake. No PS4 GUI and shifting messages.

They should make a joke of E3 AC4 lag like "Let's try one more time with this AC4 BF demo"

They were using two PS4s: the transition was faked. The person playing on Vita was really playing with remote play though.

Also the E3 demo didn't have lag problems...

How do you call this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyUJIQBMna4



Consistent in downplaying others as they always do. Consistent in stupid unethical and unnecesarry/childish business practices?

Seriously I dunno why but everyone working at Sony seems arrogant to me. Or is it just the dogs that bark don't bite thing?



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Xenobot said:
JoeTheBro said:
Xenobot said:

IMHO this was so low and not funny.

In addition AC4 remote play demo seemed like fake. No PS4 GUI and shifting messages.

They should make a joke of E3 AC4 lag like "Let's try one more time with this AC4 BF demo"

They were using two PS4s: the transition was faked. The person playing on Vita was really playing with remote play though.

Also the E3 demo didn't have lag problems...

How do you call this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyUJIQBMna4


Not "lag" ;)



Got to love these jests. This is good PR.

Why the hell are some people even trying to defend Microsoft in this thread. It's been almost 3 months since e3 and still some people can't let go. It's a freaking joke at the cost of some bad decisions your favorite company made, get over yourselves.



No matter how you look at it, Andrew House has a point when he made that statement, and the crowd applaud. You cannot deny that, If you do then you're just being gullible for the sake of gullible.



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JazzB1987 said:
Consistent in downplaying others as they always do. Consistent in stupid unethical and unnecesarry/childish business practices?

Seriously I dunno why but everyone working at Sony seems arrogant to me. Or is it just the dogs that bark don't bite thing?

Have you forgotten all the unnecesarry/childish things MS did at a EU PS3 launch?

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/24/recap-xbox-360-crashes-ps3-launch-fun/

At least Sony never acted so god damn desperate like that.



tuscaniman99 said:
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We aren't talking about last gen. We are talking about this gen and Xbox is winning in the games department. Nobody knows how this gen will pan out so you can only take it with face value. Regardless Sony better not get complacent. We have seen Microsoft make moves and make them quick. People are already starting to look at Microsoft the Xbox One in a better light. This gen won't be a cake walk for the PS4. Xbox One will put up a fight.

I think this is why I dislike you and have you deemed a fanboy in my mind...The fact that you disregard three generations of history shows that...well, you are blinded by bias.  I know you're banned right now (and rightfully so), but I have to say so anyway:  If you honestly are so insistent on ignoring trends and proven promises kept that Sony has a steady stream of games on the horizon instead of releasing everything en masse at launch, then you are a straight up fool and should be either banned or ignored.  

Let's get something straight, I do not like Sony or Microsoft, but when it comes to conscious, gaming decisions and overall attitude towards consumers, I can get behind sony.  They have some flubs, mostly them fucking up with PR and security (the OtherOS incident that led to the massive power outage), or straight up arrogance (the launch of the PS3 at 600 bucks...and their attitude surrounding the belief that you should get a second job to afford one), but when they make their DECISIONS, it's usually good.  PS+?  one of the best deals in gaming, EVER. The vita?  I don't care what anyone says, the features of that system are outstanding, and their cross-buy promosions are outstanding for people who own both.  Free online play?  Addition of the Blu-Ray player?  Controllers with incumbet, lithium-ion batteries?  Wireless consoles?  They did a LOT of things this generation that were outstanding for the consumer, even at the cost of their dominance, and they learned their lessons from their flubs.  

I say what I do and preach the sony religion (not really, but you get the drift) because everything in the last 5 years or so has proven to me that Sony really, really does do what they can to please us.  I mean, they don't CARE about us (if you think they do, you're a fool) beyond what money of ours they can coax from us, but unlike Microsoft's policies and attitude they don't seem to hate us.  

You can go on and on about how much better the Xbone's launch lineup is, and I'll admit straight up it's more impressive, but I've learned from previous generations that it's not how you start, it's how you finish.  Gen VII showed that Microsoft was more worried about a strong start and a lead over their main competitior (Sony) that they sacrificed hardware reliability and any sort of consistency in order to get a stranglehold of the market.  sony, on the other hand, took a lot of risks and ended up the strongest of the three console makers by the end, eventually beating the Xbox 360 in worldwide sales and, if their policy from last gen carries over (to maintain production of the PS3 for a 10-year+ cycle), then it could end up, in 2015 or 2016, beating the Wii worldwide. 

There's nothing foolish, arrogant, ignorant, or biased about using modern trends and extrapolated data from three console generations to come to the logical conclusion that Microsoft has kinda lost it and Sony has in fact proven themselves to be true to their word.  

I mean, the mere fact that the Xbox One's MSRP is 100 dollars more than the PS4's by simple virtue of forcing the Kinect on us shows that Microsoft is no longer targetting the 'core' gamer.  I am a core gamer, so I am therefore not the kind of person that buy's an Xbone.  I will, eventually, but right now all I see is inconsistent policies, a launch lineup that doesn't appeal to me, a system that's too expensive and not very powerful, and a forced peripheral who's predecessor I didn't have any fucks to give to.  do I disregard the system entirely?  No, I do not, but based on what I've seen and the company's past history and decisions, I just don't feel I can trust Microsoft.  I'll g ive them a year to convert me.  I'll likely get an Xbox One next year...if the system proves to be worth it.  I don't like the idea of having to pay 70 bucks a year (I'm canadian, 59 plus tax is 67) to use a console's advertised features when I can, instead, spend 50 a year on PSN+ and get far better deals, knowin that even if I lose PSN+, I'll still be able to use virtually all the PS4's advertised features.  

At this point, it's just better.  Saying "The Xbox One has Halo!" is as redundant as saying "Nintendo has Mario!" when your brand relies too heavily on a stable of three franchises, well...let's just say there's a reason gameslike LittlebigPlanet and uncharted tend to score higher marks.  

I honestly don't even know if I was going anywhere with this. 

TL;DR version?  Sony has proven themselves, and any logical, rational thinking person would agree that on the whole the PS4 is a much safer bet and a better investment. 



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