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BloodyRain on 17 August 2013

I don't really like mario games that much anyways. Wouldn't matter either way. I enjoy... and some others more.



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pokoko on 17 August 2013
RolStoppable said:
pokoko said:

Hah, yeah, except no one cared about the Mario Bros. arcade game.  It was basically a new IP and new IPs don't sell hardware.  The NES hit at the right time and became incredibly popular, pulling Mario along with it.  Donkey Kong was their star back then.  Everyone I knew wanted a NES first for the robot, then for the light gun, then for all the games it had.  Perhaps Mario helped in the second half of the console's life-cycle but it certainly wasn't the reason the NES initially broke through.  Mario was just Donkey Kong's understudy at that point.

New IPs don't sell hardware? That's a preposterous claim.

Also, the plural of anecdote isn't data.

Oh, well, goodness, you've certainly brought the proof yourself.  The basis of your claim is what, exactly?  I don't even remember Mario being the focus of NES advertising.  Look, I'm sorry if this hurts your feelings but Mario didn't spring straight from Nintendo's loins as popular as he is today.  The NES would have been huge even if Excitebike or Donkey Kong had been the pack-in.  It was the combination of so much fun and interesting stuff that made the NES a success.



Frogger on 17 August 2013

One word: Pokémon.



pokoko on 17 August 2013
RolStoppable said:

If there is one person whose feelings are hurt, it would be you, because you can't stand Mario. You would love to believe that Mario wasn't a fundamental part in shaping gaming into what it is, but the fact is that Super Mario Bros. made the NES a success at a time when console gaming wasn't believed to have a future. It's further evidenced by the countless 2D platformers that were released in the good ten years following Super Mario Bros., because everyone knew that this was THE game that drove industry growth and thus everyone wanted to have a piece of that pie.

Haha, sure.  You're the only one that seems to boil over just because not everyone is a Mario fan.  It's kind of odd, to be honest.  I'm hardly going to have hurt feelings over something I don't care about.  =]

Regardless, I give up, you win.  Perhaps I remember wrongly and everyone was like, "OMG THAT'S THE GUY IN DONKEY KONG I HAVE TO HAVE THAT."  I dunno, I guess it's possible.   Your memory of the NES launch might very well be better than mine.

Still, the way you discount every other game on the NES is just ... I don't know, it makes no sense to me.  



PigPen on 17 August 2013

Yes, for the Zelda and Metroid games.



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superspeedybull on 17 August 2013
Wright said:

My first Nintendo game:

^^^ I'm in the same boat as this guy but my first was Windwaker I got ocorina time a year later. 



curl-6 on 17 August 2013
Wright said:

Xenoblade is first party? Didn't know that.

Yeah, Nintendo bought Monolith Soft, the studio that made it. It was produced as a Nintendo game.



curl-6 on 17 August 2013
pokoko said:

  It was basically a new IP and new IPs don't sell hardware. 

Don't be absurd.

Wii Sports. Halo.



RazorDragon on 17 August 2013

Super Mario World is my favourite game ever. If Mario didn't existed probably I wouldn't care too much about them, but Nintendo still has Pokémon, so...



richardhutnik on 17 August 2013
pokoko said:
RolStoppable said:
pokoko said:

Hah, yeah, except no one cared about the Mario Bros. arcade game.  It was basically a new IP and new IPs don't sell hardware.  The NES hit at the right time and became incredibly popular, pulling Mario along with it.  Donkey Kong was their star back then.  Everyone I knew wanted a NES first for the robot, then for the light gun, then for all the games it had.  Perhaps Mario helped in the second half of the console's life-cycle but it certainly wasn't the reason the NES initially broke through.  Mario was just Donkey Kong's understudy at that point.

New IPs don't sell hardware? That's a preposterous claim.

Also, the plural of anecdote isn't data.

Oh, well, goodness, you've certainly brought the proof yourself.  The basis of your claim is what, exactly?  I don't even remember Mario being the focus of NES advertising.  Look, I'm sorry if this hurts your feelings but Mario didn't spring straight from Nintendo's loins as popular as he is today.  The NES would have been huge even if Excitebike or Donkey Kong had been the pack-in.  It was the combination of so much fun and interesting stuff that made the NES a success.

The Colecovision has Donkey Kong as a pack-in.  Not sure you can say Donkey Kong is the big deal.  Super Mario Bros. had to do something of interest to people, that got it interested.  To deny that Super Mario Bros. wasn't significant is pushing it.