The man... the myth... the insane, numerically illiterate legend.
The man... the myth... the insane, numerically illiterate legend.
Reactions are perfectly divided on older and newer users. I love it!
Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
Mnementh said:
How do the numbers more than double after 2015? That seems off. |
They double because I believe Wii U will go to at least 2018 (80m was lifetime sales). So it doubles in about 3-4 more years after 2015.
zorg1000 said: Even if Wii U sells 240 million lifetime it will still lose this generation. Xbox One is going to sell one billion. |
HA!
Mr Khan said: Reactions are perfectly divided on older and newer users. I love it! |
I like this post. JL was called insane back in the day. History repeating?
Yes.
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Very well done and thought out article, but I have to point out one major flaw. You failed to mention one really big reason why the Wii sold so well, while previous Nintendo console sales were steadily going down with each generation, despite all of them having almost identical 1st party lineup and a much stronger lineup overall. Wii didn't sell only to previous Nintendo console owners. In fact, it didn't really even sell to previous console owners period. It sold to an audience that was almost completely new to gaming. An audience that bought the console, not because they did some product research and found it matched their preference (as they really had none), but because it was affordable, cute, and was all the buzz their favorite talk show and news hosts raved all about it. So, grandma and grandpa, mommy and daddy, all went went out to buy these new cheap and popular toys for little Susie and Billy that would keep them entertained for years to come. Casual vs. Hardcore isn't the difference between what console someone has purchased, or the games for that matter; it's the difference between how much gaming they have done in the past. Wii owners, on the majority, have done none. This explains why the Wii has since become an extremely poor seller, why the 360 and PS3 have remained somewhat consistent, and why the Wii-U isn't selling anywhere close to Wii and will be lucky to even come close to GC numbers. You were right. The Wii sold on inclusiveness, but inclusiveness of families containing people who could care less about gaming. They simply own the console for the mass appeal. The Wii-U doesn't have that, and the audience it's trying to sell to is long since gone.
You're ideas of a unified games industry are great and all but, alas, they're futile. It jut won't happen. There's still always going to be some sort of huge division in the games industry. People who purchased a PS or Xbox system in the past are going to continue to do so. If Nintendo is trying to create some sort of revolution, they won't be the ones to finish it. They'll have to wait until they can create some new peripheral with mass appeal down the road, and sell it to that generation of casuals. It's not going to be the Wii-U.
I don't mean to come off some sort of dick, btw. I did enjoy the article. I'm just giving my honest opinion.
richardhutnik said: If you are going to argue that "horsepower doesn't matter" then why should anyone bother upgrading now? Why not just stick with a PS3, or 360, or one of these Android based consoles (OUYA and onward)? The argument for the Wii U, is that gamers NEED to have a second screen in their living room. That is IT for the Wii U. So, you need to argue why this second screen is such a critical feature that it will win over hardcore gamers that you had stated it would, because the Wii U is supposed to be a "hardcore" console, according to your estimate. The Wii U is supposed to outdo a PS4 that is more powerful, with much larger internal storage, and ONLY $50 more expensive. The WiiU is supposed to do this without really an EA support and every third-party turning their nose on it, as far as next gen console content goes. The Wii U gets current gen stuff, to some extent, but is this stuff really being shown that much better than current gen stuff? Second screen and Nintendo's exclusives are what the Wii U has. Is that enough? |
What are you talking about? You upgrade for the GAMES. It isn't about the HORSEPOWER. It is about the GAMES. GAMES GAMES GAMES. When developers quit releasing games you want on the 360/PS3 then you want to upgrade to the newest console to get your games. If it was just about horsepower for people everyone would buy new consoles on day one. Or you wouldn't hear people waiting for better games. The Wii-U isn't doing bad right now due to its Horsepower. It NEEDS MORE GAMES.
DialgaMarine said: Very well done and thought out article, but I have to point out one major flaw. You failed to mention one really big reason why the Wii sold so well, while previous Nintendo console sales were steadily going down with each generation, despite all of them having almost identical 1st party lineup and a much stronger lineup overall. Wii didn't sell only to previous Nintendo console owners. In fact, it didn't really even sell to previous console owners period. It sold to an audience that was almost completely new to gaming. An audience that bought the console, not because they did some product research and found it matched their preference (as they really had none), but because it was affordable, cute, and was all the buzz their favorite talk show and news hosts raved all about it. So, grandma and grandpa, mommy and daddy, all went went out to buy these new cheap and popular toys for little Susie and Billy that would keep them entertained for years to come. Casual vs. Hardcore isn't the difference between what console someone has purchased, or the games for that matter; it's the difference between how much gaming they have done in the past. Wii owners, on the majority, have done none. This explains why the Wii has since become an extremely poor seller, why the 360 and PS3 have remained somewhat consistent, and why the Wii-U isn't selling anywhere close to Wii and will be lucky to even come close to GC numbers. You were right. The Wii sold on inclusiveness, but inclusiveness of families containing people who could care less about gaming. They simply own the console for the mass appeal. The Wii-U doesn't have that, and the audience it's trying to sell to is long since gone. I don't mean to come off some sort of dick, btw. I did enjoy the article. I'm just giving my honest opinion. |
I responded to your fallicies, It's hard to know why nintendo failed thoughout the Pre-Wii era. However I got a link for you here to help .
It help shows that Nintendo was moving away from their roots thoughout the Pre-wii era. Link is here
OT: I don't agre with everything here, but it is the best prediction here honsetly.
DialgaMarine said: Very well done and thought out article, but I have to point out one major flaw. You failed to mention one really big reason why the Wii sold so well, while previous Nintendo console sales were steadily going down with each generation, despite all of them having almost identical 1st party lineup and a much stronger lineup overall. Wii didn't sell only to previous Nintendo console owners. In fact, it didn't really even sell to previous console owners period. It sold to an audience that was almost completely new to gaming. An audience that bought the console, not because they did some product research and found it matched their preference (as they really had none), but because it was affordable, cute, and was all the buzz their favorite talk show and news hosts raved all about it. So, grandma and grandpa, mommy and daddy, all went went out to buy these new cheap and popular toys for little Susie and Billy that would keep them entertained for years to come. Casual vs. Hardcore isn't the difference between what console someone has purchased, or the games for that matter; it's the difference between how much gaming they have done in the past. Wii owners, on the majority, have done none. This explains why the Wii has since become an extremely poor seller, why the 360 and PS3 have remained somewhat consistent, and why the Wii-U isn't selling anywhere close to Wii and will be lucky to even come close to GC numbers. You were right. The Wii sold on inclusiveness, but inclusiveness of families containing people who could care less about gaming. They simply own the console for the mass appeal. The Wii-U doesn't have that, and the audience it's trying to sell to is long since gone. I don't mean to come off some sort of dick, btw. I did enjoy the article. I'm just giving my honest opinion. |
You didn't come off as a dick. Just misinformed. Which is alright. Anyways I hope you realize that many people did research the Wii before buying it. On top of that research facilities, nursing homes, and rehabilitation clinics among others have bought the Wii. It had many uses beyond just being a "game console" Also the Wii quit selling after major games quit being released for it. You know that is just common sense right? The PS3/Xbox 360 are still getting major titles released onto it.