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Seece on 01 January 2014
Kaizar said:
Seece said:
Kaizar said:
Seece said:
Kaizar said:
LNC_GoldenAxe said:

Hey Guys,

I would have made a topic about this article I found but still to new here and some of the PS4 Mods are always on my back -_-

Anyways, check this article out: http://gimmegimmegames.com/2013/12/ea-expect-ps5next-xbox-5-6-years/

it's connected to this disscussion, like John pointed out that horsepower doesn't matter anymore.


P.S. In my opinion Microsoft will be out of the console business next generation.

Double P.S. By the way, John Lucus is Nintendo Fanboy number 2, I'm still number 1 :)


I think we can all agree on that. (the bold I'm talking bout)

What would be the reason??


Xbox becoming irrelevant, like PlayStation in the Handheld market.

Yeah because that's really going to happen isn't it. Did you miss the bit about XB1 doing more in 5 weeks than WiiU has in 12+ months? The demand is there because it caters to a specific audience, the same one as the 360. It doesn't need to beat PS4 or even hit 360 lifetime numbers to be a success for MS.

The only problem with that is that we all know that PlayStation gamers mostly buy everything in the first 30 days, and Xbox gamers in the first 60 days.

Nintendo buyers mostly buy any 3rd & 1st party software & hardware throughout 5 years.

Ive seen it before, something releases on PS3 & 360, and it has no legs, but a great first 1 to 3 months, while something releases on Nintendo always has great legs but not much of a launch compare to its lifetime sells.

 The reason the Ps3 & 360 could take off after 4 years was because people finally had a HD TV, to truely enjoy the feature (a lot of consumers perspective), but the PS4 & ONE are offering mostly the samething for gaming. That's like the Wii U only doing more WiiMote gaming from the Wii, it's bad marketing and it won't hold up after launch is over.

Yeah that's totally what happened with PS1 and PS2 as well, I've never seen such a shoddy argument backed up with no proof whatsoever, at first I though you were talking about games, but no, hardware! You heard it here folks, Sony and Microsoft hardware is frontloaded. Hilarious.

No, you're hoping it is. They'll trend similar. If anyones hardware is frontloaded lately it's Nintendo's. Wii didn't last anywhere near as long as PS360, and WiiU still got more than 50% of its current sales in its first 6 weeks.



 

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Fusioncode on 01 January 2014
Seece said:
Kaizar said:

The only problem with that is that we all know that PlayStation gamers mostly buy everything in the first 30 days, and Xbox gamers in the first 60 days.

Nintendo buyers mostly buy any 3rd & 1st party software & hardware throughout 5 years.

Ive seen it before, something releases on PS3 & 360, and it has no legs, but a great first 1 to 3 months, while something releases on Nintendo always has great legs but not much of a launch compare to its lifetime sells.

 The reason the Ps3 & 360 could take off after 4 years was because people finally had a HD TV, to truely enjoy the feature (a lot of consumers perspective), but the PS4 & ONE are offering mostly the samething for gaming. That's like the Wii U only doing more WiiMote gaming from the Wii, it's bad marketing and it won't hold up after launch is over.

Yeah that's totally what happened with PS1 and PS2 as well, I've never seen such a shoddy argument backed up with no proof whatsoever, at first I though you were talking about games, but no, hardware! You heard it here folks, Sony and Microsoft hardware is frontloaded. Hilarious.

No, you're hoping it is. They'll trend similar. If anyones hardware is frontloaded lately it's Nintendo's. Wii didn't last anywhere near as long as PS360, and WiiU still got more than 50% of its current sales in its first 6 weeks.

Sounds reasonable. The PS2 sold 150m units in 30 days and then completely died off. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

Seece on 01 January 2014
Fusioncode said:
Seece said:
Kaizar said:

The only problem with that is that we all know that PlayStation gamers mostly buy everything in the first 30 days, and Xbox gamers in the first 60 days.

Nintendo buyers mostly buy any 3rd & 1st party software & hardware throughout 5 years.

Ive seen it before, something releases on PS3 & 360, and it has no legs, but a great first 1 to 3 months, while something releases on Nintendo always has great legs but not much of a launch compare to its lifetime sells.

 The reason the Ps3 & 360 could take off after 4 years was because people finally had a HD TV, to truely enjoy the feature (a lot of consumers perspective), but the PS4 & ONE are offering mostly the samething for gaming. That's like the Wii U only doing more WiiMote gaming from the Wii, it's bad marketing and it won't hold up after launch is over.

Yeah that's totally what happened with PS1 and PS2 as well, I've never seen such a shoddy argument backed up with no proof whatsoever, at first I though you were talking about games, but no, hardware! You heard it here folks, Sony and Microsoft hardware is frontloaded. Hilarious.

No, you're hoping it is. They'll trend similar. If anyones hardware is frontloaded lately it's Nintendo's. Wii didn't last anywhere near as long as PS360, and WiiU still got more than 50% of its current sales in its first 6 weeks.

Sounds reasonable. The PS2 sold 150m units in 30 days and then completely died off. 

Of course, how did I miss that?!

What makes it funnier is, it looks like 3DS has had its peak year already.



 

Fusioncode on 01 January 2014
Kaizar said:

Let's just come back to this discussion in December 2K14.

I can say the Wii U will win.

You can say the PS4 and/or ONE will win.

But seeing is believing about 2014, so let's just come back to this discussion in Q4 2014, so there won't be any way out of the discussion for either of us.


Oh sure thing Kaizar. Only problem is that I know you, Lucas, and all his followers will be gone by then. No way you guys are sticking around to watch the WiiU fall into a distant third. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

Fusioncode on 01 January 2014
Seece said:
Fusioncode said:
Seece said:
Kaizar said:

The only problem with that is that we all know that PlayStation gamers mostly buy everything in the first 30 days, and Xbox gamers in the first 60 days.

Nintendo buyers mostly buy any 3rd & 1st party software & hardware throughout 5 years.

Ive seen it before, something releases on PS3 & 360, and it has no legs, but a great first 1 to 3 months, while something releases on Nintendo always has great legs but not much of a launch compare to its lifetime sells.

 The reason the Ps3 & 360 could take off after 4 years was because people finally had a HD TV, to truely enjoy the feature (a lot of consumers perspective), but the PS4 & ONE are offering mostly the samething for gaming. That's like the Wii U only doing more WiiMote gaming from the Wii, it's bad marketing and it won't hold up after launch is over.

Yeah that's totally what happened with PS1 and PS2 as well, I've never seen such a shoddy argument backed up with no proof whatsoever, at first I though you were talking about games, but no, hardware! You heard it here folks, Sony and Microsoft hardware is frontloaded. Hilarious.

No, you're hoping it is. They'll trend similar. If anyones hardware is frontloaded lately it's Nintendo's. Wii didn't last anywhere near as long as PS360, and WiiU still got more than 50% of its current sales in its first 6 weeks.

Sounds reasonable. The PS2 sold 150m units in 30 days and then completely died off. 

Of course, how did I miss that?!

What makes it funnier is, it looks like 3DS has had its peak year already.

But I thought it was going to sell 50 million by the end of 2013...



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

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Seece on 01 January 2014
Fusioncode said:
Kaizar said:

Let's just come back to this discussion in December 2K14.

I can say the Wii U will win.

You can say the PS4 and/or ONE will win.

But seeing is believing about 2014, so let's just come back to this discussion in Q4 2014, so there won't be any way out of the discussion for either of us.


Oh sure thing Kaizar. Only problem is that I know you, Lucas, and all his followers will be gone by then. No way you guys are sticking around to watch the WiiU fall into a distant third. 

They're already been very quiet recently, and it's happening. Distant third in UK after only a few weeks.



 

Fusioncode on 01 January 2014
Seece said:
Fusioncode said:
Kaizar said:

Let's just come back to this discussion in December 2K14.

I can say the Wii U will win.

You can say the PS4 and/or ONE will win.

But seeing is believing about 2014, so let's just come back to this discussion in Q4 2014, so there won't be any way out of the discussion for either of us.


Oh sure thing Kaizar. Only problem is that I know you, Lucas, and all his followers will be gone by then. No way you guys are sticking around to watch the WiiU fall into a distant third. 

They're already been very quiet recently, and it's happening. Distant third in UK after only a few weeks.

Yep. Us detractors are the only ones keeping this thread going anymore. Most of Lucas' supporters have either left or been banned. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

Anfebious on 01 January 2014

I don't like that people here think of people who agree with JL as "followers".

This is no religious cult, it's just one guy expressing himself and people agreeing with his views. I tihnk JL never meant this as some kind of weird religious cult.

I agree to some of JL points and he sure is a good debater! I don't think he will leave the site and neither the people who "follow" him. It takes more than a simple debate ör a failed prediction to make people leave a forum





"I've Underestimated the Horse Power from Mario Kart 8, I'll Never Doubt the WiiU's Engine Again"

Kaizar on 01 January 2014
Seece said:
Kaizar said:
Seece said:
Kaizar said:
Seece said:
Kaizar said:
LNC_GoldenAxe said:

Hey Guys,

I would have made a topic about this article I found but still to new here and some of the PS4 Mods are always on my back -_-

Anyways, check this article out: http://gimmegimmegames.com/2013/12/ea-expect-ps5next-xbox-5-6-years/

it's connected to this disscussion, like John pointed out that horsepower doesn't matter anymore.


P.S. In my opinion Microsoft will be out of the console business next generation.

Double P.S. By the way, John Lucus is Nintendo Fanboy number 2, I'm still number 1 :)


I think we can all agree on that. (the bold I'm talking bout)

What would be the reason??


Xbox becoming irrelevant, like PlayStation in the Handheld market.

Yeah because that's really going to happen isn't it. Did you miss the bit about XB1 doing more in 5 weeks than WiiU has in 12+ months? The demand is there because it caters to a specific audience, the same one as the 360. It doesn't need to beat PS4 or even hit 360 lifetime numbers to be a success for MS.

The only problem with that is that we all know that PlayStation gamers mostly buy everything in the first 30 days, and Xbox gamers in the first 60 days.

Nintendo buyers mostly buy any 3rd & 1st party software & hardware throughout 5 years.

Ive seen it before, something releases on PS3 & 360, and it has no legs, but a great first 1 to 3 months, while something releases on Nintendo always has great legs but not much of a launch compare to its lifetime sells.

 The reason the Ps3 & 360 could take off after 4 years was because people finally had a HD TV, to truely enjoy the feature (a lot of consumers perspective), but the PS4 & ONE are offering mostly the samething for gaming. That's like the Wii U only doing more WiiMote gaming from the Wii, it's bad marketing and it won't hold up after launch is over.

Yeah that's totally what happened with PS1 and PS2 as well, I've never seen such a shoddy argument backed up with no proof whatsoever, at first I though you were talking about games, but no, hardware! You heard it here folks, Sony and Microsoft hardware is frontloaded. Hilarious.

No, you're hoping it is. They'll trend similar. If anyones hardware is frontloaded lately it's Nintendo's. Wii didn't last anywhere near as long as PS360, and WiiU still got more than 50% of its current sales in its first 6 weeks.


And how do you know that in September 2014 the PS4 & ONE won't have more then 50% of its sells from its first 2 months?



Fusioncode on 01 January 2014
Anfebious said:
I don't like that people here think of people who agree with JL as "followers".

This is no religious cult, it's just one guy expressing himself and people agreeing with his views. I tihnk JL never meant this as some kind of weird religious cult.

I agree to some of JL points and he sure is a good debater! I don't think he will leave the site and neither the people who "follow" him. It takes more than a simple debate ör a failed prediction to make people leave a forum



Normally I'd agree with you, but there has been a cult-like behavior with his supporters. One guy even referred to him as a messiah. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!