bananaking21 said:
Zero999 said:
1- irrelevant
2- lie. but even if true, then why release for ps4/xone if "all the fan base already owns ps360"
3- those 190k are about a 7% attach rate and it was 10% close to release day. it's a respectable amount considering the base, no matter what you say.
4- THE VAST MAJORITY of wii u owners are people who can enjoy games that range from gta to mario kart because, you know, liking one type of game doesn't rule out the others. and if you think kids aren't included in the audience for gta, you should check the brats that swarm the online multiplayer for ps360 fps titles.
5- are you a developer know? cause I recall ubisoft saying it costs about a million to port to wii u, maybe a little more in the case of gta but it would still profit with less than 200k. it would probably sell 1kk+ and establish the franchise.
6- Irrelevant.
So all in all, you just hate nintendo and come up with whatever excuse for an argument you can think of to bash it. GTA5 on wii u will make money for rockstar and give a good adition to wii u owners game library, win win for everyone (except you, of course).
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1- it is relevant, but your hurt feelings make you say otherwise.
2- i dont see an xbox or PS4 version announced, and even if they did it would be to those who are upgrading to those consoles, playstation and xbox fans who buy GTA and bought the previous ones.
3- the number of WiiU solds is shit, why bother with it then if even if having a high attach rate means shit sales? you just shot yourself in the foot there.
4- then you are saying we should base how we should predict sales on the games such as CoD and other FPS, then lets do that. CoD sold 190K...... hmmm what other FPS games are there? none, so it just managed 190K without competition, amazing. why would GTA sales be any better?
5- well you just contradicting yourself. they say it takes 1M to port any game which is the case of ubisoft games, not other games. Rockstar games are much bigger in scale. anyways, you say 200K would make a profit? has any ubisoft game that was ported reached 200K? didnt ubisoft themselfs say they were dissapointed with the WiiU. how do you know 200K would easily make a profit? are you a developer?
https://www.developersaccomplice.co.uk/ubisoft-confirms-wii-u-disappointment/
6- it is relevant, saying that a small console base has nothing to do with the sales of a console is one of the most ignorant things i ever heard
so all in all you just blindly support nintendo and come up with an argument that states a company should support it when all the logical evidence show that it would be a stupid idea to port the game to the console
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1- past means nothing. many companies had no histoyry with xbox before the 360. it is irrelevant, period.
2- you shouldn't speak for others when you say gta fans are not on nintendo systems.
3- ps4 and xone have 0 install base so by this logic nothing would ever release on a new console. 190k is not "shit" on a 3M installed base ,especially when only 100k would be enough to profit.
4- gta sales would be better because it's a big title and wii u's installed base will be quite higher than last year and keep growing along the holidays. your excuse for an argument has no ground.
5- let me draw for you genius: 1M to port = profiting at 100k. even if gta5 size would raize the porting costs I still doubt it would need more than 2M and thus, profit at 200k. I know it would profit thanks to simple math: profit per unit sold - cost.
6- your first statement: "extremely bad WiiU sales" that is not a reason not to release the game on it, especially with every evidence pointing to the sales picking up. your second statement: "saying that a small console base has nothing to do with the sales of a console is one of the most ignorant things i ever heard" what? i think you meant GAME sales, because certainly the BASE has nothing to do with HARDWARE sales.
finally: "when all the logical evidence show that it would be a stupid idea to port the game to the console" All logical evidence says rockstar will profit with the game being on wii u, as well as establishing the franchise there. But all I see is a hater who cares more about games that won't be on others system than the ones coming to his own.