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DirtyP2002 on 27 July 2013

I am quoting myself from N4G today:

"You guys liked Halo 4, The last of us, Uncharted or Gears?

The next gen offers developers 11x more RAM to play with. So calm the &%$! down."



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

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Weedlab on 27 July 2013
DirtyP2002 said:

I am quoting myself from N4G today:

"You guys liked Halo 4, The last of us, Uncharted or Gears?

The next gen offers developers 11x more RAM to play with. So calm the &%$! down."

Agreed.



 

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Sony + Nintendo = WIN! PS3 + PSV + PS4 + Wii U + 3DS


Nsanity on 27 July 2013

NeoGaf never had a problem with Digital Foundry posting negative articles on the Xbox One and Wii U, so why the sudden change of heart?



ethomaz on 27 July 2013

RenCutypoison said:

Remember what I said a few days ago about non encoded videos taking a lot of space ?

There is at least 1GB in OS RAM for the video, I think

I can be wrong but the video record uses dedicated hardware... stack RAM.



gooch_destroyer on 27 July 2013
Nsanity said:
NeoGaf never had a problem with Digital Foundry posting negative articles on the Xbox One and Wii U, so why the sudden change of heart?


"SonyGaf" remember you saying that?



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ethomaz on 27 July 2013
Nsanity said:
NeoGaf never had a problem with Digital Foundry posting negative articles on the Xbox One and Wii U, so why the sudden change of heart?

They don't have problem with DF... it is Leadbetter... since the PS3 x 360 comparision.



walsufnir on 27 July 2013
TimCliveroller said:
pezus said:
TimCliveroller said:
ethomaz said:
TimCliveroller said:
Now you all try to justify 512 MB? So numbers do count? Let me put it this way: a typical os with 3 GB DDR3 vs the same os with 3 GB GDDR5.... how would it perform under let's say - common sense usage scenarios.

For what? All depends what schenarios you are talking about.

Not graphics related ones - obviously.

That is "common sense usage" on a console?

Then why does it need an OS eating 3GB? or why does it need an os at all... an API shouldn't be enough then?


I think we should point out what os is and what it's not. Some seem to confuse it with the kernel, others don't seem to know how consoles work today. Even now you can use some parts of the system while gaming and this will be extended a lot on consoles. I think both Sony and MS don't want to limit devs for other apps that are not gaming but also run on the consoles. So they reserve a lot but give more to gaming-devs which is absolutely fine and still offers ways for improvement over years.



Adinnieken on 27 July 2013
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Nsanity said:
NeoGaf never had a problem with Digital Foundry posting negative articles on the Xbox One and Wii U, so why the sudden change of heart?


you never get tired of this do you

Hypocrisy is always fun.  Why do you think The Daily Show and The Colbert Report do so well?



walsufnir on 27 July 2013
ethomaz said:

RenCutypoison said:

Remember what I said a few days ago about non encoded videos taking a lot of space ?

There is at least 1GB in OS RAM for the video, I think

I can be wrong but the video record uses dedicated hardware... stack RAM.


for the computing stuff I can imagine dedicated hardware but not for ram. Remember how small PS4 is, that would be a *lot* of stuff to be implemented on the board. I am looking forward on disassemblys of PS4. Remember the xbone-board? I really liked it :D



ethomaz on 27 July 2013

walsufnir said:

for the computing stuff I can imagine dedicated hardware but not for ram. Remember how small PS4 is, that would be a *lot* of stuff to be implemented on the board. I am looking forward on disassemblys of PS4. Remember the xbone-board? I really liked it :D

Sony already said no resource from the main CPU, GPU and RAM are used to the video recording feature.

And there is a theory by a "unknown" developer.

"I was talking to a third party developer recently who was impressed that on PS4 the recording feature doesn't use any main CPU/GPU/Memory resources. He theorised that it is done on a completely separate chip that taps into the output stream between the memory and HDMI and records the last 15 minutes of footage onto some stacked RAM (a method Sony already use for PS Vita)."

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=72104901&postcount=60