The amount of ram used by a console's OS will probably be reduced as the console ages; whatever the numbers might be now, are subject to change in the future. The Xbox One probably won't need the 3gb or ram in a year or 2. But Sony on the other hand had a problem this gen with not having enough ram for their OS and it suffered because of it. No game is going to need more than 4 gigs of ram for quite a while, so in the meantime Sony is probably looking to future proof their console. 

I still don't get why having the same amount of ram available to developers as the xbox one makes the console any less attractive, but more of that ram will become available to developers if they need it in the future. And Sony still has yet to comfirm how much ram is actually being used for the OS; 3.5 is still uncomfirmed.

Well yeah the whole conversation wasn't quoted, and that's pretty reasonable if you ask me.  

"Your initial response is funny, seeing as you blatently talk BS about how the PS4 was so much better than the XBone in your many posts in other threads.  But when it is reported that the PS4 has less available ram than the XBone, it is now not needed and will make the system even faster"  Is the initial post that I take issue with, followed by "So your response is "prove it"".  

I'd argue that asking you to prove something that you specifically stated is totally legitimate.  It wasn't about proving that he's a Sony fan, I'm sure he knows that, it's about proving the claims you made about posts he's made in the past.  Your general point is legitimate, but if you're going to call someone out you need to bring something more than "that's how I remember it" and you shouldn't be shocked when they tell you to prove your claim.  

I was about to writing a post saying that i don't understand why gamers are so obsessed with how companies have to do exactly what they want, and if they don't, be angrily pissed and moaning like a child. Me as a consumer, only i have to consider if i like the console and the games they try to sell me when the product is in the shop. The way that company accomplish that, is their problem. I don't need to know every specific of what are they doing everytime, and if they don't tell me, i don't consider they are trying to trick me at all. Intefering and critizising without knowing every aspect of the developement of a product sounds childish....

There is a guys that said in GAF the all these info are wrong.

"Don't worry.This article is all wrong."
"It'll never be since its completly untrue."
"Yeah,absolutly. Real numbers and all.
Quite somme panic in there.Thread is too fast for a fake non news."

This guy was confronted by the Mods to give credentials...

In GAF when that happen if the guy is telling truth nothing happen but if he can't show credentials he is banned.

It is been a day already and the guy not got banned

Edit - GAF mod words "Yes, we talked privately already. Take from that what you will."

So I guess the numbers in DF article are all wrong... another Leadbetter Sony personal rumor attack?

I'm not angry that it's only 5, I'm angry because Sony could've told us instead of us finding out through a DF article, especially when you consider the lot of the internet expected the PS4 to have 6-7 gigs available. It just seems sneaky to me....

Like how Microsoft spouted the cloud BS to raise people's expectations. Sony decided to be vague about arguably their second biggest advantage. And now that that's debunked I feel like they were trying to trick consumers. Maybe it's just me but I'd appreciate it if these console makers would be upfront about all their specifications instead of boosting them up to build hype that ultimately turns out to be BS. 

Cripes, a lot of hot air over nothing. Developers themselves are happy with the RAM amount they get to play with so why should you, the end user, care when games look great and perform well? 5GB RAM is more than enough for devs getting to grips with the new hardware. Futhermore, in the future, more RAM will be made available through optimization. Its not like those 3GB of GDDR5 suddenly disappears into thin air >_<

Anyway, no other company has gone into detail about RAM allocations because it makes zero difference to people outside of development teams. Its better than not giving much detail on the console at all ~ Wii U, Xbox One.

I don't think he likes to risk his job to upset sony-fans all over the world. Such things are obviously checked easily if wrong or right. You can't just say anything and get away with it, especially if it's data that can be checked.

Literally nothing's been comfirmed yet. Sony's comment was -

We have no comment to make on the amount of memory reserved by the system or what it is used for.

Silence doesn't always mean negative news and Sony's policy has always been "we don't comment on rumors or speculation". The 7gb available for developers, as far as I know was an uncomfirmed rumor people attached themselves to -  Sony didn't trick people into believing anything.

Sony was also quiet about their DRM policies and look at how that turned out.

And people should learn by now to not trust every rumor until something's been comfirmed.

Who the hell cares if it were Sony or MS fans?
The fact remains that MS got a pretty bad response after they were honest and tell everyone that 5GB are for gaming.

Sony is doing the same now and their "light OS" is actually heavier than Windows. Sony will use 3.5 GB for multimedia stuff as well.
They just refused to talk about this.

My prediction that the technical gap between both consoles will be smaller than ever is coming true.

Well, it was the usual suspects who did so. There were also others that said it's still enough, IIRC.