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WagnerPaiva on 27 July 2013

3,5 for the O.S.? That is some greed O.S. huh? Why does it do anyways?



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tuscaniman99 on 27 July 2013

I'm pretty sure the GPU in the PS4 would bottleneck the system before it needed more RAM. 5.5 GBs is enough and I believe as the gen goes on they could optimize the OS even more and maybe bump it up to 6GBs for games. Regardless I'm just glad that the OS will be functional. I've raged plenty of times using the stupid XMB when checking messages, trophies etc and the system basically freezing or taking forever to load. I'll be getting an Xbox One first but I"ll pick up a PS4 as well. Both consoles will have great looking games.



thismeintiel on 27 July 2013
WagnerPaiva said:
3,5 for the O.S.? That is some greed O.S. huh? Why does it do anyways?

It's actually 1.5GB, if insiders are right.  Sony is just reserving another 1GB in case they want to add any new features.  Devs actually have 5.5GB to work with.



 

WagnerPaiva on 27 July 2013
tuscaniman99 said:
@bananaking21
He basically said the Xbox One was a joke because only 5gb of ram was available to developers and his game is using 5gb already blah blah blah. He showed his game at the Sony conference and I bet he is feeling pretty stupid about now. There is no way his game is using 5gb of ram unless he is the worst coder in history.


That shitty game uses 5GB RAM? Those new consoles are looking more and more like a joke to me. Look HOW MUCH the PS3 and the 360 did with almost nothing of RAM. Jesus...



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bananaking21 on 27 July 2013
BasilZero said:
tuscaniman99 said:
@bananaking21
He basically said the Xbox One was a joke because only 5gb of ram was available to developers and his game is using 5gb already blah blah blah. He showed his game at the Sony conference and I bet he is feeling pretty stupid about now. There is no way his game is using 5gb of ram unless he is the worst coder in history.


Isnt his game that one indie game they showed that will be "Open World", I cant believe people actually believed him lmao.

 

^ This game? Come on now.

yup and thats the point of his game. i remember him saying that open world games nowdays are all about HUGE spaces, but he wants to make the experience of an open world game in the smallest open world. he wants to have the experience and content be as meaningfull as possible. i remember that was his goal with the witness



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bananaking21 on 27 July 2013
BasilZero said:
bananaking21 said:

yup and thats the point of his game. i remember him saying that open world games nowdays are all about HUGE spaces, but he wants to make the experience of an open world game in the smallest open world. he wants to have the experience and content be as meaningfull as possible. i remember that was his goal with the witness


5 GB for that though? I can understand 5 GB for the next GTA but this? I wanna know what makes his game need 5 GB if it really runs on 5 GB.


guess we will have to wait and see. maybe a lot of AI and physiscs?



bananaking21 on 27 July 2013
WagnerPaiva said:
tuscaniman99 said:
@bananaking21
He basically said the Xbox One was a joke because only 5gb of ram was available to developers and his game is using 5gb already blah blah blah. He showed his game at the Sony conference and I bet he is feeling pretty stupid about now. There is no way his game is using 5gb of ram unless he is the worst coder in history.


That shitty game uses 5GB RAM? Those new consoles are looking more and more like a joke to me. Look HOW MUCH the PS3 and the 360 did with almost nothing of RAM. Jesus...


we are still at the start of the gen. after 2-3 years we should see a big difference 



Chevinator123 on 27 July 2013

all of you people bagging on the witness dont even know what the fuck yous are on about or know anything about game development

SMH



nnodley on 27 July 2013
BasilZero said:
bananaking21 said:

yup and thats the point of his game. i remember him saying that open world games nowdays are all about HUGE spaces, but he wants to make the experience of an open world game in the smallest open world. he wants to have the experience and content be as meaningfull as possible. i remember that was his goal with the witness


5 GB for that though? I can understand 5 GB for the next GTA but this? I wanna know what makes his game need 5 GB if it really runs on 5 GB.

Didn't he say he was loading the whole game world onto the RAM instead of chunks of it at a time?  I may be pulling it out of my ass though.  I'll see what I can find.



thismeintiel on 27 July 2013
tuscaniman99 said:
@bananaking21
He basically said the Xbox One was a joke because only 5gb of ram was available to developers and his game is using 5gb already blah blah blah. He showed his game at the Sony conference and I bet he is feeling pretty stupid about now. There is no way his game is using 5gb of ram unless he is the worst coder in history.

As far as I remember, he never bashed the One for only having 5GB of available RAM.  He was explaining why 8GB may seems like a lot, but it really isn't.  He did wonder why MS didn't put more in it, since DDR3 is so cheap in bulk.  Of course, I don't necessarily agree with him that 8 GB is not a lot. 

Other than that, the only other comments I have seen from him on RAM have been about the speed of the RAM +  the HW advantages may make scenarios where some games run 60 FPS on the PS4, while only running 30FPS on the One.