Bought FM 13 in March and I clocked 257 hours on it. And I played it for just 1 month a half. It was ruining my student life.
Bought FM 13 in March and I clocked 257 hours on it. And I played it for just 1 month a half. It was ruining my student life.
Imaginedvl said:
You know what "PS"rock. If my post history is so small :) Just look at it... If you really find out that I'm talking crap about Sony fans all day and night in my history; you must be blind. It is not because I'm expressing my frustration tonight about the last weeks that I'm talking crap nights and days about Sony fans. Please... |
I asked you for your moderation history. I'm still waiting.
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Imaginedvl said:
LOL... Becoming arrogant in your anwser will not give you more credibility :) |
It doesnt matter if its a single fan or a group of fans in agreement, it doesnt change the fact that its an opinion based on preference - all being fans of the same company/console just consolidates a groups preference, leading to the same opinion.
Pointing out your failure to grasp basic concepts isnt arrogance, its an attempt at education.
happydolphin said:
What if, just what if, he talked to other xbox fans and they agreed with him that many of them are annoyed? I honestly wouldn't be surprised. I'm a Nintendo fan and I was annoyed at how the xbox one was treated by the internet at large. |
As i mentioned above, by and large to have a preference to a console changes your opinion of how general receiption of that console is seen, if you approach other fans of the same console you are simply narrowing the scope of opinion to those most likely to agree with your personal opinion - because your preferences are the same.
Doesnt make the shift in tone on forums a "fact that the forums have got anouying" it just means that certain people and groups are dissatisfied that their own preferences and opinions are no longer in line with the general tone of the forums.
Until fans of all three consoles come forward and say "these forums are now anouying" it is not a fact that "the forums have got anouying".
the moment you tack on "for xxx fans", you change it from fact to opinion.
| psrock said: I asked you for your moderation history. I'm still waiting. |
lol what? I have been banned once for a day... (If I recall correctly)
For actually calling someone else a troll (VGKing).
Now I'm more than interested in what my moderation history has to do with the topic exactly and my post about the fact that these forums are annoying lately for Xbox fans? Care to explain?
psrock said:
I asked you for your moderation history. I'm still waiting. |
You are focused on a spec when there is a log of trolls that exist. Give the guy at least the right to his opinion, if not agreeing that there is a lot of trolling against Nintendo and MS, and much less towards Sony.
When the xbox one was announced, a whole thread dedicated to mocking the xbox one was made and mostly promoted by the usual suspects. To my disarray it was mod-approved. If the internet were more fair that thread would have been tolerable. The problem is that the situation of the internet today is that it is, in fact, infested with Sony trolls who give the good Sony fans a bad name and spoil the fun for everyone else, and makes decent posters of other preferences become bad posters because they feel the responsibility to fight the trolls and they end up using the wrong tools (I know I did).
The bottom line is that I think that the good Sony fans should stop defending the Sony trolls and fight the good fight, and peace would be restored. When Nintendo or MS fans revolt out of anger and annoyance, give them the right and be with them, because the trolls are not to be defended no matter what.
It doesn't bother me when someone comments "I have a massive man crush on Cerny right now" but it does bother me when a comment like that gets 100-200 agrees. The Sony fanboyism there is overwhelming to the point of being disgusting. Nothing mildly critical of Sony or pro Microsoft is allowed. They come across as a group of blind morons.
I love the VGChartz forums though. People here are enthusiastic about gaming like me. We all have our preferences but no one gets criticised for their console of choice. It's my favourite place to visit.
its funny site,
people just laugh, fanboys get mad when some1 say bad things about the company they love
| Nyleveia said: It doesnt matter if its a single fan or a group of fans in agreement, it doesnt change the fact that its an opinion based on preference - all being fans of the same company/console just consolidates a groups preference, leading to the same opinion. Pointing out your failure to grasp basic concepts isnt arrogance, its an attempt at education.. |
Dude I'm not even readin your post anymore... You are literaly ignoring my replies.
I you want to play with words; go ahead but nothing you say can actually change that an oppinion or personnal preference is unrelated to the FACT that right now N4G and even VGC are annoying places to be for an Xbox fans. If you really have trouble understanding that and believe that this is an oppinion (therfore not shared by other Xbox fans) you are just plain wrong...
happydolphin said:
Call it karma, call it the seed bears its fruit, in the end Sony fans have behaved in ways that have revolted people on many a gaming site/forum. The push-back you are getting from imaginedvl is nothing compared to the oceans of posts and negative likes being propagated by trolls, who happen to be in majority Sony trolls, as in OP it's regarding N4G. Really, if you really care about him and derailing and behavior and everything, you should lend him an ear and fight those trolls back. It'll give him much more faith in Sony fans, in the good ones and will help him to stop generalizing. |
The issue has nothing to do with Sony trolls. MS has fucked up the last couple months, its been hard for loyalist to deal with all the negative aspect associated wth MS messing up. Sony fans and many MS fans have made their voice heard with the whole Xbox craziness.
But this is nothing new, Sony fans dealt with this with the PS3, VITA, PSP. It just some cant handle the negativity and make it personal.
The fact is we are just fans, we not part of these comapanies and our feeling should not get hurt we they get critized.
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happydolphin said:
You are focused on a spec when there is a log of trolls that exist. Give the guy at least the right to his opinion, if not agreeing that there is a lot of trolling against Nintendo and MS, and much less towards Sony. When the xbox one was announced, a whole thread dedicated to mocking the xbox one was made and mostly promoted by the usual suspects. To my disarray it was mod-approved. If the internet were more fair that thread would have been tolerable. The problem is that the situation of the internet today is that it is, in fact, infested with Sony trolls who give the good Sony fans a bad name and spoil the fun for everyone else, and makes decent posters of other preferences become bad posters because they feel the responsibility to fight the trolls and they end up using the wrong tools (I know I did). The bottom line is that I think that the good Sony fans should stop defending the Sony trolls and fight the good fight, and peace would be restored. When Nintendo or MS fans revolt out of anger and annoyance, give them the right and be with them, because the trolls are not to be defended no matter what. |
I have been here since 2008. I can safely say MS is the least trolled company this Generation.
Sony fans are having some fun now because we've come a long way. From having no games, having just one exclusive, the amount of negativity towards the Sony and the PS3 was insane.
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