killerzX said:
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you just said that if someone chucks a rock at you, that you're justified in taking that person's life... i simply repeated that
killerzX said:
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you just said that if someone chucks a rock at you, that you're justified in taking that person's life... i simply repeated that
WrathofTank said:
I wouldn't, but it isn't a crime to follow someone, and it isn't a crime to continue to do so after the dispatcher told you not to. The only part that was relevant to the case is when Zimmerman and Martin engadged each other. |
It may not be against the law to do these things but its also incredibly stupid. I know you can't be tried for stupidity but in cases like this where only one side lives to tell the story and there are no clear eyewitnesses, the cause and effect of the decisions made by people involved should be considered as much as the actual altercation.
No one really knows what happened in the dark. What if Zimmerman called Treyvon a filthy ni***r and he lost it and jumped on him?
All that is clear as day is that because Zimmerman decided to follow Treyvon and get himself involved, things escalated to a point where he apparently had to use a gun to defend himself.
killerzX said:
i guess children are allowed to join the military then. fly jets, drop bombs, fire machine guns, rocket launchers throw grenades, etc. yeah he was a child. |
Child or man he got shot because he was provoked by a man who thought he was suspicious because of his fucking hoodie. Basically based on this ruling I can go out there right now, provoke a kid or man, then shoot him out of self-defense. Doesn't defense imply that you were attacked first not you forced someone to attack you. I mean what kind of logic is this.
Cobretti2 said:
Even in this thread you see some people bring up the whole black vs white thing. Why is this even a factor in modern America? This will only fuel more violence because of the verdict. Plus Jessie Jackson isn't helping the situation with his rants. Slightly of topic but are people still hung up about slavery? Like when was the last black slave? Also what about the indians? why no one care about them? Granted all this was wrong in Americas history, but that is what it is, history and it is not like it happened only a few years ago. People need to move on and work out their differences. Kids arnt born racist they are tought to be by their parents and generations before them and friends. Look at Europe and Germany as an example, do you see many people still hating them because of Hitler and his action? If you look at the older generations sure but the younger ones just don't care as it is in the past and all they can do is learn not to do the same. Even throught history someone has enslaved someone and are we all meant to hate each other because of it?
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It is easy to say you shouldn't need to be prepared, but it's better to be safe than sorry.
As for all the racist talk. Unfortunately we have some people like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton who do a lot of race bating, racism would be a non issue if it weren't for people like them. I guess they can't get over the past history.
Slimebeast said:
Because he viciously attacked Zimmerman, then sat on his chest and punched his fists in the poor man's face. |
first off we don't know who actually initiated the physical conflict
what we do know is that he had a strange man following him at night...
tell me what would you do if its dark and you notice you have someone following you, keeping in mind that such situations generally lead to robberies
the odd thing is that when you look at it logically you realise that for some people only zimmerman had the right to fear for his life ( even though he was responsible for the situation in the first place )
psrock said:
what? how old are you? |
im 20, a marine, who is surrounded by many other marines from the ages of 17 and up. most are between the ages 17-22 ish
o_O.Q said:
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clearly im not talking about some school yard fun of throwing rocks at each other. im talking stoning, the type of thing that still happens in the middle east and stuff. a little common sense would go a long way for you.
disolitude said:
No one really knows what happened in the dark. What if Zimmerman called Treyvon a filthy ni***r and he lost it and jumped on him? All that is clear as day is that because Zimmerman decided to follow Treyvon and get himself involved, things escalated to a point where he apparently had to use a gun to defend himself. |
I agree that better judgement could have been used, but it is easy to play Monday morning quarterback.
Slimebeast said:
Because he viciously attacked Zimmerman, then sat on his chest and punched his fists in the poor man's face. |
If you harass me on my way home and a fight ensues I will beat you up. If you want to start a fight then dont pull a fucking gun when you start to lose. Quote from zimmerman after police told him to stay away "THEY always get away". Who is they??? The kid lived in the neigborhood too smh, from now on if someone harasses me from wearing a hoody I will break their necks before they shoot me whoever they are.
Better yet, I will go start a fight then after taking a couple of punches, I will shoot him out of self defense.
killerzX said:
clearly im not talking about some school yard fun of throwing rocks at each other. im talking stoning, the type of thing that still happens in the middle east and stuff. a little common sense would go a long way for you. |
you just said that if someone chucks a rock at you, that you're justified in taking that person's life... i simply repeated that