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Sal.Paradise on 09 July 2013
oniyide said:
HikenNoAce said:
You can't make a new IP exclusive to a Nintendo system and expect it to sell well.


Just Dance, Deca Sports, Carnival Games, all say hi


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zorg1000 on 09 July 2013
oniyide said:
AndrewWK said:
oniyide said:
AndrewWK said:


Of course thats a big fact that no one is buying Wii U so you can´t sell games on it. But if it would have been a Halo quality game then it would sold regardless the console or install base. But a generic Zombi game can´t get that much attention anymore. I hope you understand what I wanna say.

I kind of doubt it, would that game have moved consoles, if it was better? What kind of game would move WIi U? because the biggest franchise hasnt done it(2dMario and COD) so I dont know what would have done it.


Come on thats not fair. A 2D Mario was the laziest thing to do, plus just a few months before the released a crappy 2D Mario game so I guess people had enough of it. And come COD was never gonna move Nintendo consoles. What Nintendo needed was to win the coregamer over, and this wont be done with a 2D Mario game, and those who where interested in COD had already purchased it for other platforms.

Just take Halo as an example the original Xbox has sold like wet shit and Halo still managed to make a shitload of money, because it was the game to get. And Zombi U just isn´t that

Oh i do think its fair to a point, 2d Mario is the biggest gaming franchise, thats just money. It was never for the core gamer but to try to get everyone on board didnt work. I agree with everything else. 

What game was going to do it? Serious question, i know Zombi U wasnt really, but what could they have made?

Its not a fair point, look at the price and list of games on other consoles that had NSMB

DS-$129, first original 2D Mario in about 15 years. Other key games Mario 64 DS, Brain Training, Nintendogs, Kirby, Yoshi, WarioWare, Animal Crossing, Mario Kart

Wii-$199, first console 2D Mario since SNES and first with simultaneous multiplayer. Other key games, Wii Sports/Fit/Play, Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing.

3DS-$169/199, also had Mario 3D Land, Ocarina of Time 3D, Nintendogs, Mario Kart, Kid Icarus, Kingdom Hearts, Resident Evil, Star Fox 64

Wii U-$299/349 also has Nintendo Land, ZombiU, Lego City

As u can see 2D Mario isnt a system seller in and of itself but at the right price with a handful of other key titles it sells huge.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

oniyide on 09 July 2013
Sal.Paradise said:
oniyide said:
HikenNoAce said:
You can't make a new IP exclusive to a Nintendo system and expect it to sell well.


Just Dance, Deca Sports, Carnival Games, all say hi


Lol eww

what? werent they new IPs on Ninty systems?



oniyide on 09 July 2013
zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:
AndrewWK said:
oniyide said:
AndrewWK said:


Of course thats a big fact that no one is buying Wii U so you can´t sell games on it. But if it would have been a Halo quality game then it would sold regardless the console or install base. But a generic Zombi game can´t get that much attention anymore. I hope you understand what I wanna say.

I kind of doubt it, would that game have moved consoles, if it was better? What kind of game would move WIi U? because the biggest franchise hasnt done it(2dMario and COD) so I dont know what would have done it.


Come on thats not fair. A 2D Mario was the laziest thing to do, plus just a few months before the released a crappy 2D Mario game so I guess people had enough of it. And come COD was never gonna move Nintendo consoles. What Nintendo needed was to win the coregamer over, and this wont be done with a 2D Mario game, and those who where interested in COD had already purchased it for other platforms.

Just take Halo as an example the original Xbox has sold like wet shit and Halo still managed to make a shitload of money, because it was the game to get. And Zombi U just isn´t that

Oh i do think its fair to a point, 2d Mario is the biggest gaming franchise, thats just money. It was never for the core gamer but to try to get everyone on board didnt work. I agree with everything else. 

What game was going to do it? Serious question, i know Zombi U wasnt really, but what could they have made?

Its not a fair point, look at the price and list of games on other consoles that had NSMB

DS-$129, first original 2D Mario in about 15 years. Other key games Mario 64 DS, Brain Training, Nintendogs, Kirby, Yoshi, WarioWare, Animal Crossing, Mario Kart

Wii-$199, first console 2D Mario since SNES and first with simultaneous multiplayer. Other key games, Wii Sports/Fit/Play, Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing.

3DS-$169/199, also had Mario 3D Land, Ocarina of Time 3D, Nintendogs, Mario Kart, Kid Icarus, Kingdom Hearts, Resident Evil, Star Fox 64

Wii U-$299/349 also has Nintendo Land, ZombiU, Lego City

As u can see 2D Mario isnt a system seller in and of itself but at the right price with a handful of other key titles it sells huge.


Tell that to the original Super Mario bros. for NES and World for SNES hell i would argue that Mario 64 moved...64s



zorg1000 on 09 July 2013
oniyide said:
zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:
AndrewWK said:
oniyide said:
AndrewWK said:


Of course thats a big fact that no one is buying Wii U so you can´t sell games on it. But if it would have been a Halo quality game then it would sold regardless the console or install base. But a generic Zombi game can´t get that much attention anymore. I hope you understand what I wanna say.

I kind of doubt it, would that game have moved consoles, if it was better? What kind of game would move WIi U? because the biggest franchise hasnt done it(2dMario and COD) so I dont know what would have done it.


Come on thats not fair. A 2D Mario was the laziest thing to do, plus just a few months before the released a crappy 2D Mario game so I guess people had enough of it. And come COD was never gonna move Nintendo consoles. What Nintendo needed was to win the coregamer over, and this wont be done with a 2D Mario game, and those who where interested in COD had already purchased it for other platforms.

Just take Halo as an example the original Xbox has sold like wet shit and Halo still managed to make a shitload of money, because it was the game to get. And Zombi U just isn´t that

Oh i do think its fair to a point, 2d Mario is the biggest gaming franchise, thats just money. It was never for the core gamer but to try to get everyone on board didnt work. I agree with everything else. 

What game was going to do it? Serious question, i know Zombi U wasnt really, but what could they have made?

Its not a fair point, look at the price and list of games on other consoles that had NSMB

DS-$129, first original 2D Mario in about 15 years. Other key games Mario 64 DS, Brain Training, Nintendogs, Kirby, Yoshi, WarioWare, Animal Crossing, Mario Kart

Wii-$199, first console 2D Mario since SNES and first with simultaneous multiplayer. Other key games, Wii Sports/Fit/Play, Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing.

3DS-$169/199, also had Mario 3D Land, Ocarina of Time 3D, Nintendogs, Mario Kart, Kid Icarus, Kingdom Hearts, Resident Evil, Star Fox 64

Wii U-$299/349 also has Nintendo Land, ZombiU, Lego City

As u can see 2D Mario isnt a system seller in and of itself but at the right price with a handful of other key titles it sells huge.


Tell that to the original Super Mario bros. for NES and World for SNES hell i would argue that Mario 64 moved...64s

Im talking about in recent times, ur talking about something comletely different. Those games are nearing 25-30 years old in the 2D era. All my examples are within 7 years and in the 3D era. Plus those consoles were also $200 and had other decent games to go along with them.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

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Sal.Paradise on 09 July 2013
oniyide said:
Sal.Paradise said:
oniyide said:
HikenNoAce said:
You can't make a new IP exclusive to a Nintendo system and expect it to sell well.


Just Dance, Deca Sports, Carnival Games, all say hi


Lol eww

what? werent they new IPs on Ninty systems?

it's an unfortunate list of IPs is what I meant



oniyide on 09 July 2013
zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:
zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:
AndrewWK said:
oniyide said:
AndrewWK said:


Of course thats a big fact that no one is buying Wii U so you can´t sell games on it. But if it would have been a Halo quality game then it would sold regardless the console or install base. But a generic Zombi game can´t get that much attention anymore. I hope you understand what I wanna say.

I kind of doubt it, would that game have moved consoles, if it was better? What kind of game would move WIi U? because the biggest franchise hasnt done it(2dMario and COD) so I dont know what would have done it.


Come on thats not fair. A 2D Mario was the laziest thing to do, plus just a few months before the released a crappy 2D Mario game so I guess people had enough of it. And come COD was never gonna move Nintendo consoles. What Nintendo needed was to win the coregamer over, and this wont be done with a 2D Mario game, and those who where interested in COD had already purchased it for other platforms.

Just take Halo as an example the original Xbox has sold like wet shit and Halo still managed to make a shitload of money, because it was the game to get. And Zombi U just isn´t that

Oh i do think its fair to a point, 2d Mario is the biggest gaming franchise, thats just money. It was never for the core gamer but to try to get everyone on board didnt work. I agree with everything else. 

What game was going to do it? Serious question, i know Zombi U wasnt really, but what could they have made?

Its not a fair point, look at the price and list of games on other consoles that had NSMB

DS-$129, first original 2D Mario in about 15 years. Other key games Mario 64 DS, Brain Training, Nintendogs, Kirby, Yoshi, WarioWare, Animal Crossing, Mario Kart

Wii-$199, first console 2D Mario since SNES and first with simultaneous multiplayer. Other key games, Wii Sports/Fit/Play, Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing.

3DS-$169/199, also had Mario 3D Land, Ocarina of Time 3D, Nintendogs, Mario Kart, Kid Icarus, Kingdom Hearts, Resident Evil, Star Fox 64

Wii U-$299/349 also has Nintendo Land, ZombiU, Lego City

As u can see 2D Mario isnt a system seller in and of itself but at the right price with a handful of other key titles it sells huge.


Tell that to the original Super Mario bros. for NES and World for SNES hell i would argue that Mario 64 moved...64s

Im talking about in recent times, ur talking about something comletely different. Those games are nearing 25-30 years old in the 2D era. All my examples are within 7 years and in the 3D era. Plus those consoles were also $200 and had other decent games to go along with them.

I was simply pointing out that Mario at one time WAS a system seller. It was the game to get, much like WIi Sports was the game to get for WIi, even though it was bundled. Now that is not the case any longer which Ninty seems to be finding out the hard way, so far enough.



oniyide on 09 July 2013
Sal.Paradise said:
oniyide said:
Sal.Paradise said:
oniyide said:
HikenNoAce said:
You can't make a new IP exclusive to a Nintendo system and expect it to sell well.


Just Dance, Deca Sports, Carnival Games, all say hi


Lol eww

what? werent they new IPs on Ninty systems?

it's an unfortunate list of IPs is what I meant

But thats the whole point, those are the types of games that do best on Ninty consoles, now whether that is unfortunate or not, is up to the individual, personally I dont think that. Those games have their markets and those people who like those should be serviced and they were. Im getting more than enough games i want to play on other platforms. Plus some of those cheap games fund the bigger budget ones.



zorg1000 on 09 July 2013







 

 

 think its fair to a point, 2d Mario is the biggest gaming franchise, thats just money. It was never for the core gamer but to try to get everyone on board didnt work. I agree with everything else. 

What game was going to do it? Serious question, i know Zombi U wasnt really, but what could they have made?

Its not a fair point, look at the price and list of games on other consoles that had NSMB

DS-$129, first original 2D Mario in about 15 years. Other key games Mario 64 DS, Brain Training, Nintendogs, Kirby, Yoshi, WarioWare, Animal Crossing, Mario Kart

Wii-$199, first console 2D Mario since SNES and first with simultaneous multiplayer. Other key games, Wii Sports/Fit/Play, Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing.

3DS-$169/199, also had Mario 3D Land, Ocarina of Time 3D, Nintendogs, Mario Kart, Kid Icarus, Kingdom Hearts, Resident Evil, Star Fox 64

Wii U-$299/349 also has Nintendo Land, ZombiU, Lego City

As u can see 2D Mario isnt a system seller in and of itself but at the right price with a handful of other key titles it sells huge.


Tell that to the original Super Mario bros. for NES and World for SNES hell i would argue that Mario 64 moved...64s

Im talking about in recent times, ur talking about something comletely different. Those games are nearing 25-30 years old in the 2D era. All my examples are within 7 years and in the 3D era. Plus those consoles were also $200 and had other decent games to go along with them.

I was simply pointing out that Mario at one time WAS a system seller. It was the game to get, much like WIi Sports was the game to get for WIi, even though it was bundled. Now that is not the case any longer which Ninty seems to be finding out the hard way, so far enough.

I think it still is at the right price and with some solid titles to support it. I cant think of a single game that will push a ton of consoles on its own at $350.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

Sal.Paradise on 09 July 2013
oniyide said:
Sal.Paradise said:
oniyide said:
Sal.Paradise said:
oniyide said:
HikenNoAce said:
You can't make a new IP exclusive to a Nintendo system and expect it to sell well.


Just Dance, Deca Sports, Carnival Games, all say hi


Lol eww

what? werent they new IPs on Ninty systems?

it's an unfortunate list of IPs is what I meant

But thats the whole point, those are the types of games that do best on Ninty consoles, now whether that is unfortunate or not, is up to the individual, personally I dont think that. Those games have their markets and those people who like those should be serviced and they were. Im getting more than enough games i want to play on other platforms. Plus some of those cheap games fund the bigger budget ones.

I was only expressing my distate in that list of IPs I saw and have zero investment in the conversation within which it was made :P