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JEMC on 08 July 2013
zarx said:
Sleeping Dogs max settings includes 2x2 super sampling... Why would you use that if you are running at 4k resolutions?

And Metro 2033 has a massive hit with MSAA on a deferred pipeline at 1080p at 4k I imagine the hit would be even bigger. Not to mention the crazy hit the DX11 DoF effect has.

True, but to give a global perspective the games had to be tested with the same settings (and it was probably easier and faster to set everything to max and call it a day).

 

@Sirius87: I didn't say that they would keep the framerate, I only talked about the resolution. And for now most of the "affordable" (less than $2000) 4K monitors/TVs are 30Hz.

Besides, do you really thing that games will be at 60fps during the whole gen?



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Sirius87 on 08 July 2013

@ JEMC:
No I absolutely don't think 60fps will be common late in the cycle. But devs will most likely aim at 60fps before considering 4K. So even simplistic game which could probably run in 4K won't because if they have to choose the developer will pick 60fps instead.

And yes: Todays 4K TVs are of course only 30Hz. HDMI 2.0 isn't here yet and TVs would have to use Displayport or something similar, which isn't really common.



JEMC on 08 July 2013
Sirius87 said:
@ JEMC:
No I absolutely don't think 60fps will be common late in the cycle. But devs will most likely aim at 60fps before considering 4K. So even simplistic game which could probably run in 4K won't because if they have to choose the developer will pick 60fps instead.

And yes: Todays 4K TVs are of course only 30Hz. HDMI 2.0 isn't here yet and TVs would have to use Displayport or something similar, which isn't really common.

To be honest, given how long it took for the masses to adopt the Full HD TVs and content (and there are still many channels/ programs that aren't even at 1080p) and the current global economy, I don't think 4K will be a "problem" until very, very late in the gen.

This will be the gen of 1080p@60fps, and I'm not even sure most games will make both things.



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AnthonyW86 on 08 July 2013
JEMC said:
zarx said:
Sleeping Dogs max settings includes 2x2 super sampling... Why would you use that if you are running at 4k resolutions?

And Metro 2033 has a massive hit with MSAA on a deferred pipeline at 1080p at 4k I imagine the hit would be even bigger. Not to mention the crazy hit the DX11 DoF effect has.

True, but to give a global perspective the games had to be tested with the same settings (and it was probably easier and faster to set everything to max and call it a day).

 

@Sirius87: I didn't say that they would keep the framerate, I only talked about the resolution. And for now most of the "affordable" (less than $2000) 4K monitors/TVs are 30Hz.

Besides, do you really thing that games will be at 60fps during the whole gen?

But then you're conclusion would still be false. You don't need 4 titans for 60 fps average with 4k if you disable AA.



Viper1 on 08 July 2013

This is not going to be a 4K generation.

Simple as that.



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JEMC on 08 July 2013
AnthonyW86 said:
JEMC said:
zarx said:
Sleeping Dogs max settings includes 2x2 super sampling... Why would you use that if you are running at 4k resolutions?

And Metro 2033 has a massive hit with MSAA on a deferred pipeline at 1080p at 4k I imagine the hit would be even bigger. Not to mention the crazy hit the DX11 DoF effect has.

True, but to give a global perspective the games had to be tested with the same settings (and it was probably easier and faster to set everything to max and call it a day).

But then you're conclusion would still be false. You don't need 4 titans for 60 fps average with 4k if you disable AA.

But if you disable AA then you are not gaming at max settings.

And it's not my conclusion .



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green_sky on 08 July 2013

Going to wait for 8K. Now that would be a jump. The enemy crab would freak the hell out of me. Seems the pc master race will get there but consoles are now barely doing full hd. So it would be a while.

I mean there are rumours of Order: 1886 on PS4 running at 1920×800 but that could be intentional. Who knows. 



curl-6 on 08 July 2013

4K gaming is to this gen as 1080p was to the 7th gen; a dream that will remain unfulfilled, at least on consoles.



HoloDust on 08 July 2013
green_sky said:

Going to wait for 8K. Now that would be a jump. The enemy crab would freak the hell out of me. Seems the pc master race will get there but consoles are now barely doing full hd. So it would be a while.

I mean there are rumours of Order: 1886 on PS4 running at 1920×800 but that could be intentional. Who knows. 


It's most certainly intentional, that's movie aspect ratio, and they said they are going for "filmic" experience. Though, it does help with pushing more eye candy too...;)



curl-6 on 08 July 2013
green_sky said:

I mean there are rumours of Order: 1886 on PS4 running at 1920×800 but that could be intentional. Who knows. 

800x1920 is less than proper 1080p, much less 4K.