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I agree with your other points, lolita, but: 
lolita said:

1-Civilisation is a great strategic game and is complex, but isn't all that hard. People who don't really play games can play this game and win it, since there are so many ways to win.

Umm, what? We have nine different difficulty levels in Civ4. The upper tier levels are insanely difficult; even the best players in the world cannot consistently win on Deity without rigging the map settings in their favor. Take it from an expert: you do not know of what you speak on this point.  The rest of your analysis was quite good, however.

One other point... Firaxis has explicitly designed this game with a controller in mind. I've watched several preview videos, and there's nothing like a mouse pointer in evidence. I wouldn't go banking on mouse/keyboard support for 360/PS3.



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jlauro said:
Mummelmann said:
lolita said:
I was looking forward to this... Ugh stupid decisions... Really the Wii is more fitting for this, not only for the pointer controls but also the ''audience'', and I doubt it'll sell well on PS360.

Ah well, I'll grab the DS version.

What a strange thing to say. Do you think there are more strategy lovers on the "casual" Wii than on the "hardcore" 360 and PS3? I don't, beneath the PC, the 360 and PS3 are a lot more likely to house strategy fans in my earnest opinion. I know that titles such as Advance Wars do well on DS, but those titles are hardly very comparable to Civilization which is generally a very, very deep, complex and realistic strategy series.


There definitely are more on the wii. The wii is not just for casuals. The only place that might have more is the PC, and lots more PC owners are getting a Wii than a 360 or PS3. The 360 and PS3 are not interested in hardcore strategy and thinking games, they are all about the graphics. Wii is where the hardcore strategy gamers are.


 So basically what you're saying is; PS3 and 360 owners are stupid or at least too stupid to play games with immersive or deep content. That is the strangest analysis I've yet heard in here. There are plenty of users in here who own either a 360, PS3 or even both that are still very much into games with strategic elements or deep thinking, in fact; I'd say there's more of them looking at favourite games and game collection. Besides; even if there were only PC owners who also owned a Wii, there's no chance they'd rather play their strategy games on a Nintendo rather than their PC. The North & South (which is a great game!) days are long since gone and the PC gamer audience is rather specific and picky in their tastes.



Sullla said:
I agree with your other points, lolita, but:
lolita said:

1-Civilisation is a great strategic game and is complex, but isn't all that hard. People who don't really play games can play this game and win it, since there are so many ways to win.

Umm, what? We have nine different difficulty levels in Civ4. The upper tier levels are insanely difficult; even the best players in the world cannot consistently win on Deity without rigging the map settings in their favor. Take it from an expert: you do not know of what you speak on this point. The rest of your analysis was quite good, however.


I know there are different levels of difficulty, but what I mean is that a casual player won't come up and play the game on hard for the first time. I mean it's easy enough for them to play at a easy or normal level. And I know what I'm speaking about it's just I thought I didn't need to be over specific with details for people to understand what I meant.



I couldn't care less about this news myself.

I find civilization games immensely boring. I play each new one via friends who are into it hoping that the developer will someday turn the franchise into a game complete with real fun instead of a chore, and each time I am disappointed.

Onwards to next thread! *rides off into the sunset on a blue yoshi*