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Forums - Sony - First Impressions: Could the PS4 Controller Be Gaming's Greatest Ever Input Device?

ethomaz said:

J_Allard said:

I'll take that as a no, that Sony is still using the dated 1990's design that virtually every other company has ditched on controllers. Thanks.

I don't see nothing modern in asymmetric placement of the sticks... side by side is far better.

Anyway the symmetric sticks were 2000's not 1990's... controller in 1990's didn't have sticks.

And yet every controller for the home consoles since dual analog sticks were introduced, have offset sticks. You're entitled to your opinion about how side by side is "far better", doesn't make it more modern than the design that uh.. you know, everyone else uses. The exception is what.. maybe the WiiU, which doesn't even use a controller but a tablet? GCN - offset. Xbox - offset. Wii - offset. 360 - offset. Xbone - offset. Ouya - offset.

Dual analog came out on PSone in like 96 or 97 lol.



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No. Given THIS gen, I would give it to the Wii U GamePad. It has a lot more going for it than the PS4 controller does, including off-tev and a much bigger touch screen that you can actually see things on.

But beyond that, no. I'd say the SNES controller is still the "greatest gaming has ever seen".



@J-Allard
Take it easy on them. They can't handle this much common sense at one time.

 

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@DevilRising
No I'm pretty sure most agree that having a controller bigger than the console it's attached to makes it the worst controller.



J_Allard said:

And yet every controller for the home consoles since dual analog sticks were introduced, have offset sticks. You're entitled to your opinion about how side by side is "far better", doesn't make it more modern than the design that uh.. you know, everyone else uses. The exception is what.. maybe the WiiU, which doesn't even use a controller but a tablet? GCN - offset. Xbox - offset. Wii - offset. 360 - offset. Xbone - offset. Ouya - offset.

Dual analog came out on PSone in like 96 or 97 lol.

So one non-Microsoft console and another console that isn't even going to break a million units? Trying to claim the Wii has offset analogues is just desperate.

Also, you're forgetting:



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What does it matter that Ouya won't sell 50 million units? I hope those straws you're grasping can hold your weight.

And the optional WiiU pad is actually nice. If Sony is going to stick with a dated design, they should have copied that. The sticks are not offset but they are also not so close you can bump fingers when using both. A nice compromise.

Either way the point remains.. sticks not offset = by default cannot be the best controller design. Yes that's opinion but just as much opinion as anyone stating otherwise, including the quote in the OP. Nothing more to say on the matter.



DevilRising said:
No. Given THIS gen, I would give it to the Wii U GamePad. It has a lot more going for it than the PS4 controller does, including off-tev and a much bigger touch screen that you can actually see things on.

But beyond that, no. I'd say the SNES controller is still the "greatest gaming has ever seen".

I agree on the Wii U controller. It's power isn't that it's particularly ergonomic with the inputs, but that it transforms the menu interaction.

That said, the DS4 sure looks much more usable than the XB1's "batarang brick." Asymmetrical analogs are overrated, anyway. The real reason they're there is so novice gamers won't try to do the same thing with both thumbs because it puts each thumb into a different position, forcing you to regard each thumb as a seperate input. As someone who is not a novice gamer and who understands dual input sticks, I don't care for the handholding.



I like offset sticks better, but it's not something too critical. My main concern with the PS controllers was always that the sticks were too close together and this doesn't look like it's changed. As always, it'll be the great games that make me get used to another controller.



J_Allard said:
What does it matter that Ouya won't sell 50 million units? I hope those straws you're grasping can hold your weight.

And the optional WiiU pad is actually nice. If Sony is going to stick with a dated design, they should have copied that. The sticks are not offset but they are also not so close you can bump fingers when using both. A nice compromise.

Either way the point remains.. sticks not offset = by default cannot be the best controller design. Yes that's opinion but just as much opinion as anyone stating otherwise, including the quote in the OP. Nothing more to say on the matter.

Because if the Ouya sells next to nothing, then not "everyone else" is using offset analogues like you claim. I could bring up other consoles that performed like the Ouya that had symmetrical analogue sticks, and it wouldn't mean a thing.

No need to get bitter.

Yes, it's an opinion, and you're free to have one. Try doing a better job of expressing it.



Locknuts said:
I like offset sticks better, but it's not something too critical. My main concern with the PS controllers was always that the sticks were too close together and this doesn't look like it's changed. As always, it'll be the great games that make me get used to another controller.

They have changed, the cvg review details that they are slightly further apart due to the touchpad and that the sticks themselves have less travel, so that they are more responsive and you are far less likely to bang your thumbs together. The cups also make it less likely for your thumbs to slip of, resulting in the same thing.