davygee said: souixan said: End result: Possible but I'd think late 2008/early 2009 To any naysayers, FF13 and DQ9 have been getting so much attention they could easily sneak in a big production until it was near completion. I very much doubt they could conceal production of KH3 for this long if it's expected out later this year. As I said earlier, the DS and PSP KH games have been in development for 9-12 months now and they were announced 6 months ago and as far as I know, the DS game is expected late this year and the PSP game isn't even expected until next year. Dissidia is another game; been in development for 12 months or so and is expected in 6 months or even later. IMHO, for KH3 to be released in December 2008, it would have needed to have been in development since the beginning of 2007, so I seriously doubt it's been hidden for 12 months so far.

Why? Tecmo concealed Fatal Frame 4 even longer. That game comes out this summer in Japan.

Everyone that says it can't be done explain to me how Square could deliver 3 Final Fantasies, Dragon Quest 8, 2 Kingdom Hearts, a sh*tload of GBA and DS games last gen, but all of a sudden they lack the capacity to work on more then 3 games?!?

And to iron megalith: I'm sorry but expect more of this to happen. And you're complaining about graphics you haven't even seen yet. Be sure to see a big improvement over the PS2 FaFrames.

Also people have to stop thinking that winter 2008 ends at December... more about March 2009. The release date is entirely possible.

Also, davygee, KH for DS is due out this Summer.

Yeah, I highly doubt it. It'd be impressive if true, but I'm not holding my breath until the next Nintendo Power comes out.

(Amazing, by the way... almost two pages of posts and nobody's said, "guys the RPG announcement is SONIC!!! it was totally in the last np doodz. so disappointing. :( " )

Something I was thinking about last night-

Having KH3 released so soon would fit the bill of the hush hush part of Nintendo Power... I would have to be pretty hush hush for them to almost complete the game under our noses.

Also there are 2 kinds of Hype- There is the long and drawn out Halo 3 and SSBB type of hype, and then there is the Atomic Bomb type of hype(kinda like when FFVII was switched over to the PSX at last moment and then released.

So maybe Nintendo wanted to create a mega buzz so they told SE to hold off on the announcement until 1 month before release.

BengaBenga said: davygee said: souixan said: End result: Possible but I'd think late 2008/early 2009 To any naysayers, FF13 and DQ9 have been getting so much attention they could easily sneak in a big production until it was near completion. I very much doubt they could conceal production of KH3 for this long if it's expected out later this year. As I said earlier, the DS and PSP KH games have been in development for 9-12 months now and they were announced 6 months ago and as far as I know, the DS game is expected late this year and the PSP game isn't even expected until next year. Dissidia is another game; been in development for 12 months or so and is expected in 6 months or even later. IMHO, for KH3 to be released in December 2008, it would have needed to have been in development since the beginning of 2007, so I seriously doubt it's been hidden for 12 months so far. Why? Tecmo concealed Fatal Frame 4 even longer. That game comes out this summer in Japan. Everyone that says it can't be done explain to me how Square could deliver 3 Final Fantasies, Dragon Quest 8, 2 Kingdom Hearts, a sh*tload of GBA and DS games last gen, but all of a sudden they lack the capacity to work on more then 3 games?!? And to iron megalith: I'm sorry but expect more of this to happen. And you're complaining about graphics you haven't even seen yet. Be sure to see a big improvement over the PS2 FaFrames.

@BengaBenga

Oh trust me I've seen Metroid on Wii and was a fun game but not making me want to own one. Pretty much I'm still not over it. But maybe some time and handful of games will make me forget it and maybe eventually buy a wii. The reason why I can't probably stop it is because I'm not willing to buy one yet. Like Xbox and GC, I bought them when they were really cheap from they are supposed to be. Although GC didn't get me that excited and all except for the Xbox but hey it was cheap.

 

Can't wait for the spinoffs but please give me a next gen KH too. Be it 360 or PS3 I don't care just give me a next gen. 

Even though it appears to be an obvious fake, I still hope it's true. KH3 on the Wii, or any KH game for that manner would be super special awesome.

I hate rumours.

@ Iron megalith...

Next-gen, huh? First off, you carry your troll badge too high.

Do you really think that KH was utilizing the full capacity of the PS2? Do you think it was pushing its limits? The game probably could have been made just as well on the PS1. KH has never been about amazing graphics or pushing polygons.

If KH ends up on Wii, expect to see a major graphical improvement over previous installments.

If KH ends up on either the PS3 or 360....it won't sell. Not like it would on the Wii. It's all about the demographic, you see. The 360/PS3 cater to a much different gamer. Not hardcore gamers, mind you....but gamers that are hard-core. They want DMC4 blood, and GTAIV mayhem. It will be a purely practical business decision to take the series to the Wii. And it will be next-gen...afterall...the Wii is in the next gen.

davygee said: souixan said: End result: Possible but I'd think late 2008/early 2009 To any naysayers, FF13 and DQ9 have been getting so much attention they could easily sneak in a big production until it was near completion. I very much doubt they could conceal production of KH3 for this long if it's expected out later this year. As I said earlier, the DS and PSP KH games have been in development for 9-12 months now and they were announced 6 months ago and as far as I know, the DS game is expected late this year and the PSP game isn't even expected until next year. Dissidia is another game; been in development for 12 months or so and is expected in 6 months or even later. IMHO, for KH3 to be released in December 2008, it would have needed to have been in development since the beginning of 2007, so I seriously doubt it's been hidden for 12 months so far.

I don't doubt it for a second. Kingdomhearts is a second rate franchise compared to Final Fantasy. With projects on the DS and PS3 getting as much attention as they get it'd be relatively simple to conceal a large production or the starts of a large production(storyline and initial work) for several MONTHS to years before anybody noticed. Of course this is assuming there's no leaks from employees. Again 3100+ employees is enough for SEVERAL jobs. A standard team only tends to have around 50 people at a time working on it.

iron_megalith said: BengaBenga said: davygee said: souixan said: End result: Possible but I'd think late 2008/early 2009 To any naysayers, FF13 and DQ9 have been getting so much attention they could easily sneak in a big production until it was near completion. I very much doubt they could conceal production of KH3 for this long if it's expected out later this year. As I said earlier, the DS and PSP KH games have been in development for 9-12 months now and they were announced 6 months ago and as far as I know, the DS game is expected late this year and the PSP game isn't even expected until next year. Dissidia is another game; been in development for 12 months or so and is expected in 6 months or even later. IMHO, for KH3 to be released in December 2008, it would have needed to have been in development since the beginning of 2007, so I seriously doubt it's been hidden for 12 months so far. Why? Tecmo concealed Fatal Frame 4 even longer. That game comes out this summer in Japan. Everyone that says it can't be done explain to me how Square could deliver 3 Final Fantasies, Dragon Quest 8, 2 Kingdom Hearts, a sh*tload of GBA and DS games last gen, but all of a sudden they lack the capacity to work on more then 3 games?!? And to iron megalith: I'm sorry but expect more of this to happen. And you're complaining about graphics you haven't even seen yet. Be sure to see a big improvement over the PS2 FaFrames. @BengaBenga Oh trust me I've seen Metroid on Wii and was a fun game but not making me want to own one. Pretty much I'm still not over it. But maybe some time and handful of games will make me forget it and maybe eventually buy a wii. The reason why I can't probably stop it is because I'm not willing to buy one yet. Like Xbox and GC, I bought them when they were really cheap from they are supposed to be. Although GC didn't get me that excited and all except for the Xbox but hey it was cheap.   Can't wait for the spinoffs but please give me a next gen KH too. Be it 360 or PS3 I don't care just give me a next gen.

Fist of all I respect your choice not to want a Wii, but:

1) If you don't like Metroid 3 at all, what on earth are you playing?!? I mean graphically it can match PS360 (not my words, but of several gamesites reviews) except it's not in HD.  Besides that there are not a lot better "shooters" around this gen yet. (it's there with Gears, CoD4, BioShock, Halo3, Orange Box)(I assume you like shooters most because you have a 360 and started about Metroid). 

2) According to your argument you won't ever play previous generation games anymore because you can't stand those gaphics? I still love some of the old NES/SNES/N64/GC/PS2 games and for most of them I don't care about the graphics. Besides that, games like Galaxy and Brawl look a lot better then what weve seen last gen and this is just the beginning. 

3) You'll miss out on a lot if you don't buy a Wii. I don't understand you're going to buy a PS3, but complain about Wii. 360 and PS3 have most games in common and the major PS3 exclusives won't be around until 2009. (Except if you're a big MGS fan, which I doubt since you didn't have a PS2 last gen).

4) If only part of the rumours are true then expect some of these games to go Wii: Skies of Arcadia 2, Timesplitters4, Kingdom Hearts, Suikoden, Mega Man, Beyond Good and Evil 2, etc.... And the confirmed line-up looks even better with: Brawl, Fatal Frame4, MKart, Tales of Symphonia 2,  PES08 (amazing controls), Okami Wii, Fragile, Monster Lab, Monster Hunter 3 etc....