They'll drop the price soon after the PS4 release, I imagine. They really need some games though- I wish Mario Kart was available this year :/

Just so I'm clear I'm not saying the titles for PS4 are bad titles, I mean they are weak in terms of proven sales potential.  And I don't see the eye candy being better at this stage.  The Last of Us, to me, looks better than Killzone SF, even if Killzone is technically superior.  And yes, the $399 helped the XBOne, but it also sold poorly, about the same as Wii U during its first year.

I like the PS4.  I think the price point is a good place to launch it.  I am seriously considering buying one.  I think the games are good.  But I also think it will sell slowly to start after an initial surge during Christmas.  It doesn't have enough truly exciting exclusive games, most games are cross-gen, and the price is too high for mass-market appeal.  These factors mean that Wii U doesn't need to cut price due to PS4.  It may need a cut because of itself, but not because of the PS4.

Just wait for Wii U to have enough Birdo and Tingle games and it will annihilate competition, Ninty will be able to price it at $1000 and people will look for a third job to buy it!

Precisely, so far wii u doesn't have many games that encourage upgrading from your previous console. ps4/xone will face the same problem, possibly much worse for them.

again with this. wii u sales are low for one reason and one reason only: lack of games! while a price cut by the end of the year will certainly be helpefull, it's not strictly necessary because price isn't wii u's problem.

No, nobody does a price cut during the holidays, it makes no sense. Historically price cuts happen in April/May or Aug/Sept. The reason for this is too build up momentum going into the holidays or to continue momentum post holidays. U dont just spring a price cut during the holidays since many retailers will be doing there own discounts and bundles.

So my guess is either a $50 in August to coincide with Pikmin 3, summer update and new marketing campaign, this is a good time because starting in Aug there is a new exclusive every 2-3 weeks, that will give it 3 months of building momentum up to the holiday season.

Or $100 price cut in April to coincide with Mario Kart 8 and to start off the fiscal year strong. This would be a good since all the consoles will be getting into there average weekly groove and PS4/One launch hype will have died down.

I think the price cut wont be this year. Nintendos plan is games, advertising, bundles for the holidays. If that doesnt work then its time for a peice cut.

it's logicless to say that, price wise, a $299 system can't compete with a $399 one. and I do expect a slow start for ps4 next year but we'll only know how low it will be after seeing.

it's still more than the 0 people buying ps4's every week. there, the same logic as yours. I'm tired of repeating this but it's utterly ridiculous to use wii u current sales to predict doom for it.

logic says that comparing price alone means the cheapest has advantage. there's obviously games wich also give wii u the edge against ps4.

-The plus subscription is very relevant to pricing.  PS4 is able to be $399 because Sony can safely assume that at least 50% of owners will subscribe, creating extra revenue that was lacking on PS3. Assuming an 8 year life span, that means the cost of being a Playstation gamer is more this gen than ever before.  $799 for a launch system purchase.  The games are a nice bonus, but its not optional and personally I don't care about it.  My tastes are specific and I mostly buy new titles and AAA titles.  So for me (and most, since most software is purchased early and most consumers only purcase 10 titles for the life of their console) the bonus games are of little value. But having to pay to play COD online is a significant new cost to a significant number of owners.

-What is the difference between games and games support?  As a consumer I buy for games.  PS4 will not have more games this fall. Wii U will have more games.  In time I have little doubt that PS4 will have more gaming options, but objectively speaking, as you like to say, this fall - which is the time frame your talking about - Wii U will have more games.

-Internet chatter about the look of a console is irrelevant.  Sony fans love the look of Sony products and there are lots of Sony fans on the internet.  I think it looks good.  Much better than PS3, better but not as distinctive as PS2.  I think Wii U looks great.  Both are nice systems. Neither are especially remarkable, and outside of something really unique (and good - eg Wii) or unique and bad (eg Gamecube) I don't think looks are overly relevant.  You just like the look of PS4 because you are excited about.  Personally I like the thinness of it.

-Power is relevant for longevity.  It helped the SNES, it helped PS3 and it somewhat helped XB360.  It is of little impact as to why Wii U needs a price cut in the near future.  It will be of significant impact down the line.

I think Nintendo absolutely will be battling PS4 and XB1.  I think the three systems will be going head to head for consumer attention and dollars and the market will be fierce.  I just don't think many will be cross-shopping this fall.  PS4 will be in too limited supply and too pricey for all but the most dedicated Playstation fans to get a copy.  Those that want it won't even consider Wii U and have been anticipating this launch since 2006.  True cross shopping won't happen until after Christmas when buying slows down and systems are readily available on store shelves.  At that stage I think Wii U will need a price cut to compete.  I expect one to come near or before the release of MarioKart 8.

That said, a Wii U cut is very possible just before PS4 launch to dry to drum up excitement and hype for Wii U.  Nintendo may also need to do it if sales continue to lag as they have been.  But this would be due to a general lack of interest in Wii U because of itself, not because of PS4.