well done ethomaz a cerny presentation,i'll give the video a watch
well done ethomaz a cerny presentation,i'll give the video a watch
What's most surprising is have we ever had so much information about a console before launch? It's nice to see Sony putting Cerny front and centre of this because he comes across as such a nice bloke who loves games.
| Madword said: What's most surprising is have we ever had so much information about a console before launch? It's nice to see Sony putting Cerny front and centre of this because he comes across as such a nice bloke who loves games. |
I agree... that seems to be the way that Cerny works... he is transparent.
My god, it's like they gimped the CPU potential on purpose just to offload common CPU logic into the GPU...hopefully this won't hurt them in the long run.
| forethought14 said: My god, it's like they gimped the CPU potential on purpose just to offload common CPU logic into the GPU...hopefully this won't hurt them in the long run. |
That's a good point but how much?
Nobody know the performance of a Jaguar CPU yet... even more a 8-core one.
From AMD we have "AMD claims up to a 22% increase in IPC compared to Bobcat and a more multi-core friendly design".
| forethought14 said: My god, it's like they gimped the CPU potential on purpose just to offload common CPU logic into the GPU...hopefully this won't hurt them in the long run. |
Contrary to Ethomaz's belief that this will be a big benefit now, this is in actual fact, a feature that will be great in the long run for optimization rather than short term while developers are still working to understand the architecture. I don't buy his comment on lifting it above PC GPU's because as you say the stronger CPU in most gaming PC's means they dont need the help from the GPU (as the lack of use of Nvidias tech as proven).
This is nothing to do with gimping the CPU though and is a very clever tweak to add flexibility at a low cost that could be of great benefit in the hands of the right developers.
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slowmo said: Contrary to Ethomaz's belief that this will be a big benefit now, this is in actual fact, a feature that will be great in the long run for optimization rather than short term while developers are still working to understand the architecture. I don't buy his comment on lifting it above PC GPU's because as you say the stronger CPU in most gaming PC's means they dont need the help from the GPU (as the lack of use of Nvidias tech as proven). This is nothing to do with gimping the CPU though and is a very clever tweak to add flexibility at a low cost that could be of great benefit in the hands of the right developers. |
I agree with you... I just disagree that the Jaguar is that bad... I think devs can use the CPU for a lot of tasks.
Rember the PS4 CPU is a 8-core Jaguar running at 1.6Ghz.
Yes you're right that its not a gimped CPU, I should have used speech marks to infer sarcasm on the word "gimped". Sony and MS wouldn't both have made the same blunder.
| slowmo said: Yes you're right that its not a gimped CPU, I should have used speech marks to infer sarcasm on the word "gimped". Sony and MS wouldn't both have made the same blunder. |
I guess the devs will needs to learn more about how to use more multi-thread tasks than only single core clock with PS4/Xbone... I mean a code that they run in a CPU core at 3Ghz they will need to split into 3-core of the PS4/Xbone.
I guess this CPU will give a good time over an actual dual-core clocked at 3-4Ghz if the devs can spit the workload between the the cores.
Of couse... the desktops CPUs with 4 or more cores will kill this CPU in all terms but games runs well with dual-cores too.
ethomaz said:
I agree with you... I just disagree that the Jaguar is that bad... I think devs can use the CPU for a lot of tasks. Rember the PS4 CPU is a 8-core Jaguar running at 1.6Ghz. |
The actual clock of the PS4 CPU hasn't yet been confirmed, as far as I know.
Here's the official spec sheet:

There was a rumor that Sony wanted to boost the CPU clock to 2ghz.