1 reason it is not : it doesn't support next-generation engines/gaming graphic quality, gameplay capabilities, cloud-based computing, etc.

mutantclown said:
1 reason it is not : it doesn't support next-generation engines/gaming graphic quality, gameplay capabilities, cloud-based computing, etc.

even ps3 and xbox 360 can support a next generation engine if the engine is made for it... your statement is invalid

hunter_alien said:



anthony64641 said:

Miguel_Zorro said:



anthony64641 said:



2. The Specs of the Wii U are better than the PS3, 360, Wii, and every other home console to date.

While not the biggest leap in specs, the Wii U is stronger than the PS3 and 360. The Wii U has more ram, can run games in 1080p/60 FPS, and already has games that look just as good or better than their PS3/360 counterparts, Need for speed most wanted and Call of Duty Black Ops 2 are all good examples of this. The Wii U Zelda Demo looked better than a majority of the PS3 and 360 games out in the market and it wasn’t even finished. As developers get a hang of the system the graphics will get better and better. A lot of gamers feel the next generation is going to be just like this generation with the Wii being vastly underpowered. The PS3 and 360 were both roughly 20x more powerful than the PS2 and Xbox 1. Does anybody really think the PS4 and 720 are going to be 20x more powerful than the PS3 and 360? Cause that’s the kind of power those systems need to blow the Wii U out of the water, relative to last generation at at least. Microsoft is more likely to go on the cheaper side because of Kinect and Sony doesn’t want a repeat of the PS3 launch with a $600 price tag. However, I do feel Sony will have the strongest system next generation.




You know the specs for the Xbox One and the PS4 are already public, right?
If the WiiU was truly next generation, you wouldn't have to create threads to try to convince people that it's a next generation console.
Look at the comparison.  It's not even close. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(eighth_generation)
A few facts...
The system bandwidth of the PS4 is 176 GB/s.  For the XBoxOne, it's 68.3 GB/s.  For the WiiU/PS3/360, it's 12.8 GB/s, 22.4 GB/s, and 21.6 GB/s
RAM - PS4/XBox One/Wii U/PS3/360 = 8GB GDDR5, 8GB DDR3, 2GB DDR3,512MB combination, 512MB GDDR3 +10MB EDRAM. The absolute gap between the PS4 and the WiiU is larger than the gap between the WiiU and the PS3.  On a ratio basis, they're the same at 4x.
I could go on, but it's not about the specs for the Wii U.  People who want to play Nintendo franchised will buy it anyways.  But from a technology perspective, it's halfway between the PS3/360 and the PS4/X1.



LOL aww look somebody can read, how nice xD. yea ok on paper your right. but do you even know how the processors even work? Do you even know how much ram is available for games?? first off...Mmm i really dont feel like giving you a tech lesson but ok think about this. back in gen 6 remember the fantastic ps2? it was the WEAKEST console in the generation lol comparing the graphics to the gamecube was laughable at how advanced the GC was compared to it but hey guess who WON that generation?





Not really... the GC was more powerfull but not PS4/WiiU more powrfull. The PS4 and X1 simply humiliates the WiiU graphically.

... But like i said: the samething happen with the GC and ps2... your statement has now became invalid

Like wise, if the Wii U wasn't next gen haters wouldn't have to keep saying that it isn't. But you missed the whole point. What anthony was saying is that the gap between the U and the PS4/X1 won't be nearly as big as the gap between the Wii and PS360. It's at the least 2x that of the PS360 and Nintendo says its more powerful than it's given credit for.

Not as intented though. Your rebutal is poor and ignorant. What's the point of rendering on a more advanced engine only to get results close to what you get with the old engines? Running the new engine features that's what makes the difference.

which engines can´t run on the WiiU ? UE 4, which can be ported by the developer(as stated by Epic´s CEO)? Frostbite3 (despite working on smartphones)?

next generation gaming: what does that even mean? QTE galore like in Ryse?

cloud-based computing: Name me one single game that uses cloud computing for gaming! All this cloud nonsense was just Microsft trying to justify their horrible DRM with PR speak on top !

@jake_the_fake1

If the U pad is a gimmick, than so is both Sony and MS's since the pad is just a traditional controller with a touch screen. No more or less. It's not a tablet computer. It's a controller with a touch screen.

He is using a wii U for posting that's why the quoting is broken, wii U doesn't even support vgchartz, pfff talk about next gen

The Wii U is basically patterned after the same hardware formula as the first Wii, Nintendo probably even made a checklist.

- Sell the system around a new type of controller: Check.

- Moderate hardware upgrade to existing consoles: Check (Wii was similar to the XBox/GCN/PS2)

- Emphasis on small system casing and low power consumption: Check

- Main launch game is a mini-game compliation: Check (Wii Sports -- Nintendo Land)

- Core Nintendo IP for Nintendo fans (Zelda: TP -- New Super Mario Bros. U)

The only thing is lightning hasn't struck twice for Nintendo and a lot of their bets this time have not taken off (ie: Nintendo Land).

But I think they were going to chase the exact same formula again, no matter if it didn't make as much logical sense. It worked once, and Nintendo was going to bang its head on the wall and try it again.

I agree with all of your points except for point 1, sorry but it is just terrible.

As a sony exec stated in an interview the ps vita started to get developed in 2009 and the ps4 in 2010, with the remote play from the psp and with the fact that the ps4 will have out of the gate remote play and integration using the vita, as well as the double buys on vita+ps3 games its safe to say that such a project has been planned before the reveal of the wii u. Eliminating the reaction you stated which sony did. 

Smart glass was unveiled at e3 2012 the same year as the wii-u also eliminating the reaction microsoft. 

Nintendo expanded their take on the 2 screen gameplay, sony wanted to integrate the vita with the ps4 and offer remote play and other features, and microsoft wanted to push their windows powered smart phones and tablets as well as using the already huge smartphone/tablet market to give a feature to their system. 

Then their is the fact that many games like watch dogs and destiny will have apps which will offer your so called 2d screen. Bungie had been working on Destiny for 2-3 years and since they planned their 10 year plan and their vision before signing the contract with activision it is also safe to say that their view of an open world shooter included apps on other devices and multiple ways of connectivity.

When i think about the wii-u i see it as an attempt by nintendo to surpass the 360 and ps3 while expanding their take on 2 screen gameplay portrated by their nintendo ds and 3ds. Is it a next generation system that will depend on the games, and im not just talking abou an hd zelda.